Posted on 07/25/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by wagglebee
KRANKOR!
Someone needs to ask him why - this might be one of the two reasons...
An interesting puzzle.
However, some of the transmissions, I was listening to live. There WAS some serious anxiety or at least intense surprise and curiosity in their voice tones.
Shrinks are rather sensitive to voice tones.
There's nothing to the story, since Aldrin has talked about it in public before, and has actually included it in a book. It appears that the news source here was just trying to drum up business.
Why did they all that guy buzz anyway?
Plausible.
But I'm not convinced. There are lots of contingencies still operating. And it's still uncertain as to which are the key ones in any given context.
I'm not really impressed with public denials unless they are on their death bed.
Lots of folks have said one thing in public and 180 degrees in private on these issues for many decades.
BTW, the thesaurus is in my brain.
Thankfully, have never partaken.
I prefer to stay in touch with my faculties.
Oh well.
C2CAM rough transcript for first portion . . . Monday evening . . .
Rats . . . 2nd hour Buzz comes on . . . guess I'll have to stay awake longer than I'd hoped.
NOTE: My typing can be up to 80-90 nwpm. However, it's not consistently so at this hour after a long day etc. etc.
When I can get it quickly verbatim, I try to. When paraphrasing is quicker and just as accurate, I will do that.
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GEORGE NOORY: JOHN KENNEDY . . . speaking about going to the moon. . .
GN: ONE OF THOSE who did go to the moon, is our guest tonight: Buzz Aldrin . . .
GN: earned a doctrate in astronautics . . . 1963 . . . selected by NASA as one of the early astronauts . . . July 20th 1969 . . . made their historic Apollo moon walk . . . witnessed by the largest television audience in history.
BA Southern Coast of France . . .
GN I heard that you got the name BUZZ because your sister couldn't pronounce brother. Is that correct?
BA: That's the way I heard it.
GN. looking up at a full moon, do you look up and . . . what feeling
BA: . . . before we went, it was a stranger but it's a friend, now.
It's not too habitable a spot, either. It's going to be difficult for people to go there and live for a long time . . . I understand all these technical things . . . I"m still enthused when I look up there and think that by golly, I've been there . . . pop a little more pills than maybe we used to. There's 18 of us still alive of the 24 who reached the moon in support of those 6 landings.
GN: . . . it had to have been such an incredible feeling . . . What kind of a feeling was there . . .
BA . . . you've got one of the two words--magnificent desolation . . . Tom Hanks has used those words now in his latest 3D IMAX portrayal of those missions . . . young kids asking those questions and . . . one of those girls who asked those questions turns out [on the DVD series] to be the base commander of one of those settlements on the moon [projected into the future]
BA: I'm not sure it reflects the reality . . . my vote would be that we have an expanding colony on the surface of Mars--it's much more habitable . . . much more capable of supporting sustained human activity . . . You can't bring everyone back so some have to stay there. . . . I think we really have to commit to that. . . . before we really start spending a lot of money . . . I think we're doing the right thing now, setting our objectives . . .
BA: Too look back on those historic times is really quite a privilege. . . . I try to bring those together in Apollo reunion . . .
GN: ARe you disappointed that it ended?
BA: . . . so privileged to be in that first landing that we'd forego the rotation cycle so that other people could have their chance to get to the moon. Neil went into aronautics . . .
BA: They asked me to command the test pilot school. . . . I'd never had any test pilot training . . . eased my way into the astronaut program . . . via academics at MIT.
GN . . . you had to use a pen . . . is that really what happened?
BA: rows and rows of circuit breakers . . . so we had a double protection . . . most aircraft do that . . . throw circuit breakers on that so that just in case something might jam . . . so a lot of circuit breakers were pulled. So evidently when Neil and I got back in again, sort of moving around again, taking those backpacks off . . . tossing those overboard to save weight for takeoff. . . evidently in doing that, I'd knocked up against some of the circuit breakers . . . I noticed was a broken off of the circuit breaker, the top of it . . . that it might be the lighting circuit breaker . . . I looked up there and it was the engine armed circuit breaker . . . and we informed Houston and they worked on it for 6 hours on how to arm that circuit breaker . . . They finally concluded to push it in 2-3 hours before . . . which is what we did.
BA: Not wanting to apply any metal, we used a pen that had a felt tip . . . and when we pushed it in, it stayed in.
GN: I've always been interested in ET life . . . Some have said . . .Did you see anything?
BA: Well you know, Charles Berlitz wrote something about the Rosewll Incident . . . which attempted to take advantage of alleged observations of people and unusual sightings . . . that Neil and I saw some green creatures . . . this kind of spoiled my credibility and a lot of other people. So I decided to take him to court and sue him because he was repeating phrases that were not accurate. We won the suit. Hopefully it would cause a few people to be more careful how they treated trusted servants of our government to tell the truth.
BA: I feel it's a little irresponsible of people to bring up subjects to bring up things which have been explained fully.
BA: I happened to see some flashes of light at night trying to go to sleep. I thought they were z-particles . . . but the next folks who went up . . .
GN: So you didn't see any space craft on the moon?
BA: No, just ours.
GN believes there is ET out there.
BA: I don't think that's so amazing . . . billions of galaxies . . . to talk about intergalactic travel . . . when we understand the laws of physics . . . the speed of light is just not something that creatures the size of human beings . . . the speed of light is just not going to be exceeded.
BA: causes time to change; causes mass to grow to infinity . . . but within the limits of perception and identification, there will certainly be an understanding that habitable condidions exist throughout our universe . . .
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Sorry, this is just tooooooo much of the party line at this point. It's just not worth my time to bother continuing to transcribe. Cheers.
Why does everyone start believing in aliens when they retire? It must be a mental deficiency of some kind.
Old age drugs IMO.
Buzz Aldrin was on the Art Bell Show last night. Funny how the commentary has dried up after hearing what he had to say.
I have the show to listen to while I'm on vaction. Buzz was always one of my favorites.
He talked about his lawsuit where he went against somebody who had used a supposed UFO quote in a book. Aldrin won. He couldn't have that kind of thing out there ruining his reputation at NASA or back in the military. Graduated 3rd in class at West Point. PhD from MIT. Not many can top that.
He has always been a class act.
Yes. Interesting that he, Armstrong, and Collins decided together to drop out of the Apollo training program after their moon mission so as to let others have a shot at it. They were the best and might have gone back to the moon and thus cut somebody else out of the chance.
This shrink . . .
and the award winning Harvard psychiatrist John Mack insist that said assessment is simply and thoroughly untrue.
Also, that the evidence to the contrary is abundant and of significant variety from a wide variety of very professionally trained observer sources.
It seems to many of us . . . that disbelief . . . is simply that . . . DISbelief . . . a choice to DISbelieve because belief is too jangly to one's biases and status quo.
When he started spouting the party line . . . some of it contrary to the latest physics experiments . . . I knew he had nothing interesting for me to hear . . . for whatever reasons and motives he may have had.
Hoagland is also on this show. He was the one who suggested to Barney and Betty Hill that they draw a starmap under hypnosis.
Also, Hoagland is back to his glass skyscrapers on the moon topic again. He was saying he has 'smoking gun' evidence of an artificial stucture on the moon--about a third the size of a desk.
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