Posted on 07/25/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by wagglebee
THE first men to walk on the Moon reported seeing a UFO, a new TV documentary reveals.
Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon's surface after Neil Armstrong, says space agency bosses covered up their sighting.
And the Apollo 11 astronauts were also careful not to talk about it openly.
He said: "There was something out there, close enough to be observed, and what could it be?
"Now, obviously the three of us weren't going to blurt out, 'Hey, Houston, we've got something moving alongside of us and we don't know what it is, you know?
"Can you tell us what it is?'
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"We weren't about to do that, because we knew that that those transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and somebody might have demanded we turn back because of aliens or whatever the reason is."
The documentary, tonight on Five, also reveals that the astronauts had to repair the lunar module with a ballpoint pen after the historic landing in July 1969.
In the cramped conditions, someone's bulky spacesuit had snapped off a circuit breaker essential for starting up the engine.
To this day, Aldrin treasures the everyday object that saved their lives.
He said: "I used a pen, one of several that we had on board that didn't have metal on the end, and we used that to push the circuit breaker in."
The programme also draws on classified documents made public for the first time.
Finally, a logical explanation.
Bump for the Moonbase Alpha reference.
see post 88
BTW, I'm fairly certain the UFO I saw was something from a nearby military base.
I thought that was the coolest show when I was a kid.
Me Toooooooooo
I find it incredibly comical that the 'moon landing' had only a couple of eyewitnesses yet over 50 million people claim to have seen UFOs, and people will believe the moonmen and not believe 'normal' people...
I'd go back tot he "big bang," since all other bangs since them haven't measured up...
C, A, or K-code?
Yeah? Well, this just shows that evolution is false, the war on drugs is a failure, marijuana should be legal and illegal immigration is out of control. When is W going to mandate ID taught in schools, the legalization of drugs and secure our borders like a true conservative?
Huh? Huh?
I remember there were discussions at the time of the Apollo 11 mission, that they saw something. The speculation at the time was that they were seeing sunlight reflect off the SIVB third stage of Saturn V rocket. The third stage had an engine that got them to earth orbit and could be refired for what they called translunar injection. It also housed the Lunar Module in a shroud which the Command Module extracted after docking with the LM. To get it out of the way, Mission Control fired the third stage engine after the LM's extraction and sent it out of the way of the CM/LM combination. Later Apollo missions actually crashed the third stage into the moon to generate seismic waves for the seismographic package Apollo 11 left behind.
Enroute to the moon during TLI, they reported seeing an object that appeared to be flying parallel to their trajectory and asked it it might be the SIVB, but no one had any good answers. All this is in the public record mission transcripts. They saw something and it was never identified. There was also some speculation that it might have been a Soviet Luna probe that was trying to beat the US astronauts to the moon landing with an unmanned sample-return mission.
There are also accounts of VHF channel comms with Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon that were overheard by HAM radio operators on earth about UFOs. These transmissions were not encrypted, but were on channels not provided for the media's use. Such channels were used so an astronaut could discuss medical or technical issues with some degree of privacy.
Aside from the Apollo 11 crew, Mercury astronauts Gordon Cooper, Scott Carpenter, Gemini crews Ed White and James McDivitt, James Lovell and Frank Borman, among other reported seeing unidentified objects in the vicinity of their spacecraft during missions. Other astronauts, during their careers as pilots also reported seeing them.
I'm completely neutral on the whole UFO thing. So long as any potential extraterrestrials don't carry me or my kids away in the night, they're welcome to fly around and do acrobatics in the sky. It's always an interesting discussion. The reason we go into space is to look for others like us. If the point was go out and look for rocks with fossils of bacteria in them, the space program would be rather pointless. I'd personally be pleased to find out that NASA may have gotten some encouragement from "out there."
You are absolutely right. Anyone who knows what an f-stop is and how to use it, knows that the only way to get stars to show up in a picture is to use a time exsposure (or very high speed film not available in 1969). The closer the object, the greater its reflectivity even in ambient moon/starlight.
On the moon, the reflected light off the surface, overwhelms the light available from the stars. So a properly exposed photo of an astronaut on the moon will have a totaly black sky behind it, unless the sun or Earth are in view which will reflect enough light to be seen.
The same is true if you go out in the desert at night and try to take pictures.
The "no moon landing" nuts also try to use the "non-parallel" shadows to bolster their claims. Apparently they've never heard of paralex. Lens curvature and landscape variations account for the shadows.
I have thirty years experience taking real pictures with real cameras. I laugh when I hear these nuts talk about how the moon landing photos were faked. I doubt any of them are qualified to operate a disposable camera, let alone comment on authenticity of photos taken with a true camera.
I believe normal people who say they see things. They just have no idea what they are seeing. They have no idea if these "things" are manned by intelligent beings or remotely controlled, or not manned at all. Perhaps UFOs are alive. People have no idea if UFOs are solid objects, and they have no idea regarding a point of origin. People tend to jump to conclusions with no evidence in the UFO arena. People see something they can't explain, and construct all manner of unrelated theories about an unexplained sighting of "something."
(I'm excepting the ones who claim to have been taken onboard ships, those I don't believe.)
I don't mind them studying us, but those anal probes have got to stop.
I remember that. We must have watched the same documentary. It seemed pretty credible. But it also could have been a reflection or optical illusion of some sort.
I don't discount UFO's. In fact, I believe there must be something to all the stories. And, as the movie line goes, it would be a great waste of space if we were the only intelligent life.
Unlike many though, I believe that if the govt. really has a UFO locked up some place, they should keep it that way until we have sucked it dry of every possible advance.
I don't want that technology going to anyone but us. And if we admitted having one, the UN would demand we turn it over to them so everyone could study it. I say screw em. Let them capture their own UFO to exploit.
And I wish some posters had the wit to recognize a joke when they see it.
Horizon-ridgeline, you get the picture !
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