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Friendly Advice-Israel's war is foolish and a moral and strategic folly(MEGA-BARFER)
The American Prospect ^ | 07/23/06 | Matthew Ygelsias

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:28:21 AM PDT by mojito

It's usually best in the American context to keep one's criticisms of Israel polite and measured, but there are times when it's better to be blunt in the hopes of achieving clarity. Israel's current war in Lebanon is strategically blinkered and morally obtuse. The idea that the United States or American Jews like me should support it out of friendship is akin to the notion that a real friend would lend a car to a drunk buddy after the bartender confiscates his keys. I understand why the Israeli government and public think this war is a good idea, but they're simply mistaken.

Moral obtuseness is this case follows directly from strategic foolishness. Much -- too much -- ink and hypertext has been spilled on the question of "proportionate response," which leads only to the blind alley of debating arcane points of just war theory. The more basic point is this: War is a terrible thing. Waging it is a terrible thing to do, but sometimes a necessary thing. A misguided, counterproductive action, however, can never be necessary. A foolish war is never a just one.

One can tell simply by the extreme speed with which the Israeli operation in Lebanon was launched -- with no interval for threats, diplomacy, preparation, or negotiations -- that little if any thought was put into the merits of this venture. Already, one hears word from Israel's camp that the IDF itself deems talk of "crushing" Hezbollah as little more than bluster. Eighteen years of previous warfare did not render southern Lebanon terrorist-free, and Israel now seems to have reached a consensus that past efforts to actually occupy and administer portions of Lebanon were disastrous. Israel's Hezbollah problem is not, fundamentally, one amenable to forcible resolution. The issue is less the presence of an armed anti-Israeli militia just north of Israel's border than the widespread public support just north of Israel's border for the presence of an armed anti-Israeli militia.

What's more -- and however impolitic it is to say -- the fact remains that this operation came about in response to a problem that wasn't very problematic.

In the years between Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon and the current crisis, Hezbollah was known, now and again, to fire off a rocket or two in Israel's direction. Primarily, however, the organization directed its energies at Lebanese domestic politics. Indeed, even the occasional rocket attack is best understood as having been undertaken for domestic consumption. The nominal rationale for Hezbollah being allowed to maintain a militia while other Lebanese factions were not was the struggle against Israel. Therefore, it was necessary to launch a notional attack or two to prove that the group was still in the fight. These attacks were, morally speaking, despicable -- the targeting of civilians with no possibility of achieving any legitimate war aims. They were not, however, a large problem in practice for the state of Israel. Efforts to root out Hezbollah rocketeers by force have made Israelis civilians much less safe than they were before.

The cross-border raid to capture Israeli soldiers was, of course, another matter. But here Israel had options. If they wanted their soldiers back, they could have traded some Hezbollah captives for them. If they wanted to act tough in the face of threats, they could have refused to negotiate and mounted a smallish, well-targeted retaliatory strike that would have garnered significant international support. Instead, Israel chose to escalate a low-intensity border conflict that posed no serious threat to its security into a much larger-scale battle it can't possibly win -- one that will only harden anti-Israeli sentiments in its neighbor to the north.

Hawkish pundits in Israel and the United States are celebrating the move by Sunni regimes in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan to take an anti-Hezbollah line in the current conflict. This is blinkered and short-sighted. Popular sentiment in all three states is running sharply against Israel and in favor of its adversaries. Osama bin Laden's longtime contention that the United States, Israel, and the Arab world's homegrown autocrats have banded together in an anti-Muslim conspiracy are seemingly vindicated by these events. Nothing threatens American interests more in the long run than actions which push the Islamic world's masses into the arms of the extremists. That is precisely the main effect of this incursion.

Israel and its friends abroad need to face reality -- the problem that needs solving is the Palestinian problem. Were Israel's conflict with the Palestinians resolved, other challenges like Hezbollah would soon melt away. The idea of firing rockets into Israeli towns would appear absurd. Iran and Syria would have nothing to gain from supporting groups that behaved in that manner. Arab public opinion would no longer applaud the firing of rockets at random into Israeli cities.

The Palestinian problem is, to state the obvious, not an easy one to solve. The Israelis made an offer at Camp David they regarded as generous and that the Palestinians deemed inadequate. Israel, in turn, rejected a peace proposal emanating from the government of Saudi Arabia that Arabs saw as generous and Israelis saw as inadequate. This is a thorny issue. But the difficulty of finding a mutually acceptable agreement is no excuse for the Bush/Sharon/Olmert policy of just giving up. Certainly, it in no way justifies wreaking devastation on Lebanon in a quixotic effort to alter what is fundamentally a public opinion problem by means of airstrikes and mass displacements of the civilian population. Rather, the very difficulty of reaching an agreement points toward the vital importance of doing so.

Given a mutually acceptable agreement, Israel's other difficulties would subside or become amenable to much easier solutions. Absent such an agreement, solving the ancillary problems will be impossible. And efforts to solve those problems through force -- efforts like the disastrous folly we are currently witnessing -- will only worsen the problem while piling on the loss of innocent life.

This, rather than hearty bromides of encouragement and solidarity, is what Israel needs to hear from its American friends right now.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahat; antisemite; horsesass; looneyleft; nincompoop
I haven't read anything that made me this angry since the '04 election. It's hard to offer a "measured" logical response to this kind of idiocy - you want to launch into $$%#***&^%!!!!. The only thing I can say in its favor is that the article is a kind of guided tour into the mind of the KOSkid left. I had to modify the title somewhat to get it to fit.
1 posted on 07/25/2006 9:28:24 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

This is an example of a liberal American Jew, clearly defined by Michael Savage as being the basis for Israel's weakness over the past several years. This guy reaps the benefits of living in a free country.


2 posted on 07/25/2006 9:31:25 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: nikos1121

They were called "Sonderkommados" in the Death Camps. They were the lowest form of life on Earth.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 9:33:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: mojito
What'd you expect from those (Left) whose life philosophy is essentially built upon the following... "It's not fair that you work harder than I do"
4 posted on 07/25/2006 9:35:03 AM PDT by Finop
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To: nikos1121
Were Israel's conflict with the Palestinians resolved, other challenges like Hezbollah would soon melt away.

Right... Hezbollah will change it's name to Kumbaya...

5 posted on 07/25/2006 9:37:06 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: mojito

Nailed it. This is an utterly stupid column by someone who OBVIOUSLY knows nothing at all about the topic. This is not just a mistake notion or a different of opinion but it is a completely stupid absurd take on the situation. This butt clown obviously has NO clue at all about the recent history of Israel. Israel spent the last 15 years following this clowns plan. We see now how well it worked


6 posted on 07/25/2006 9:38:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Salem; SJackson; Alouette; Yehuda; Nachum; dennisw; Slings and Arrows; jabotinsky; ...
Major headache guy alert! Bring Anacin, Pepto, and hipboots!


7 posted on 07/25/2006 9:39:13 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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To: massgopguy

Don't forget the Kapos. They were the Jewish trustees who actively worked for the Nazis. The Sodderkommandos were merely slave laborers not the camp police like the Kapos.


8 posted on 07/25/2006 9:39:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: mojito

If there is anything that is clear it is that it was a mistake to wihdraw from the area in 2000. It had become a base of operations for rapid terrorists funded by Iran. Why does he think they have accumulated the 12,000 rockets they boast of having? It prevent southern Lebanon from being annexed by Israel. Because the Iraeli leadership has been talking for years about obliterating the Lebanon and Syria?


9 posted on 07/25/2006 9:42:04 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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Look, it's a simple as this: The guy who wrote this article is a schmuck.


10 posted on 07/25/2006 9:47:08 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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From his website: "Welcome to the online home of Matthew Yglesias, ranter, raver, amateur journalist, and philosophy student."

He goes to Harvard, you know.
11 posted on 07/25/2006 9:49:38 AM PDT by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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equating Israel to a "a drunk buddy " - that was as far as I needed to read.........


12 posted on 07/25/2006 10:12:20 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: massgopguy

Let's not exaggerate. True Nazis were worse. And many sonderkommandos were forced into the roles, I suspect.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 10:12:37 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: MNJohnnie; massgopguy

Yeah. The Kapos and Judenrat were far worse than Sonderkommandos, who were just slave laborers.


14 posted on 07/25/2006 10:13:27 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: mojito

Here's another writer who doesn't have problem if you break into his house, rape his wife and steal all his property.

He'd probably give up a hand or a foot for the cause.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 10:16:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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16 posted on 07/25/2006 10:43:32 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: mojito
More moral equivalence idiocy. No mention of Hezbollah's and Hamas's links to Iran or their commitment to Israel's destruction. There's no listing of the groups' involvement in terrorism and kidnappings, torture and murder of Israeli and American nationals. This is a tactic we're familiar with from liberals during the Cold War: neither side is superior to the other and they both have their good and bad aspects and need "mutual understanding." The problem is terrorist groups are not the Soviet Union and their forte isn't detente or dialogue; its jihad. Then again, its just like liberals to miss reality right in front of them. Which renders worthless the advice they hand out to Israel to accomodate its enemies.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

17 posted on 07/25/2006 4:57:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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18 posted on 07/25/2006 5:03:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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Cute monkey. Accurate sign.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 8:43:26 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: mojito

I am weary of idiots like this, who think the world started when the first figured out how to turn on their TV set. Nothing written by a clueless leftist is worth reading, so we need a "clueless leftist" alert, in addition to all the other myriad alerts.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 8:45:54 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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