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To: 2banana
It is interesting how the Army or Marines can take a group of 18 year old boys and teach them very complicated subjects

I hear that's still true of the Marines. Feminism, however, has taken a severe toll on the Army, or so I am told.

For instance, men and women do basic training together now in the Army, and the result has been a drastic decline in standards. Only special forces are now rigorously trained, or so say my sources.

60 posted on 07/25/2006 12:32:50 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
For instance, men and women do basic training together now in the Army, and the result has been a drastic decline in standards. Only special forces are now rigorously trained, or so say my sources.

Actually - all combat arms have no women in them. The standards of the 82nd Airborne, 101st Air Assault, 10th Mountain and Ranger Battalion are still pretty high...

68 posted on 07/25/2006 1:30:24 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: curiosity

It is interesting how the Army or Marines can take a group of 18 year old boys and teach them very complicated subjects
I hear that's still true of the Marines. Feminism, however, has taken a severe toll on the Army, or so I am told.

For instance, men and women do basic training together now in the Army, and the result has been a drastic decline in standards. Only special forces are now rigorously trained, or so say my sources."



***** I was in the Marines for 12 years, from OCS to a command, to Recruiting and to Parris Island as a company commander to train them. Even being a Marine and watching one series (graduating platoon), after another graduate, still amazed me. I watched how the little homesick MF's performed from the time they were long straggly haired fat boys to their final transformation as a Marine and step up on Graduation Day, after 12 weeks of basic training. They would then see their families for the first time after three months of getting rid of the civilian garbage in their head and replacing it with Marine Corps gung ho....People sometimes call it brainwashing, however, it's actually survival training to get through the war they will someday face. Now, the problem exists after they get out and have to interact with civilians as a civilian. Some never find that switch off. Some, find the switch, but switch tracks and apply what they have become to another career.....Some get the switch on, but never go to combat which, has it's a double edged sword. Those that do go to combat have a switch on that has been brought up about 100 notches..In that Marines don't wish for war, but they are eager to try out their newly acquired skills. Yet, the notion of going into combat is eagerly a bitter sweet experience to say the least. Importantly, and misunderstood by Civilians, we do love those ribbons and the romantic notion of being a hero. The Ultimate hero from the baptism of fire. We don't fight for the country, in reality we are fighting for each other and survival, the realization that it was for the country is before, afterwards you realize it was fighting for each other.

I have been out since 1987, and have truly learned that even after being out that long, you never are an ex-Marine...you are a former Marine, once one always one.


85 posted on 07/25/2006 11:56:20 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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