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To: tang0r
Added onto every bill, every drink, and every food item, is a 19% tax which goes towards the employees. Not only do you not want to tip the guy, but he is also given 19% anyway, despite his lousy service; and you had absolutely no say in the matter, even though it's your money. I could complain to the manager, but this problem doesn’t just end with the restaurant's inability to hire decent employees. The lack of economic freedom runs deeply in the veins of the French government and society.

The French and France are socialist. That is why they have a constant 10%+ unemployment rate, massive taxes and nothing works...

2 posted on 07/25/2006 6:48:14 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana

And they can't even win the tour day france. Poor frenchie.


4 posted on 07/25/2006 6:50:04 AM PDT by yobid (Islam is a disease and its death is the cure)
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To: 2banana; GeorgefromGeorgia; tang0r

I will fully agree with GfG about the way Germany works and in general about French restaurants.

The service varies hugely as does the quality of the meals - but where is that not the case?

Lastly, it is important to note that no one forced this gentelman to go to France. Just as Europeans needn't visit the US if they cannot accept a slightly different way of doing things, neither should Americans expect that everyone should act like them.

Oh, one more thing, it is the primarily the socialist grip on the job market that is the problem. It is the major factor contributing to France's and Europe's unemployment problem. The way waiters are paid is completely irrelevant.


16 posted on 07/25/2006 7:11:24 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength)
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To: 2banana

This guy has it all wrong. The 19.6% charge seen on every restaurant bill is the TVA (in English, VAT, or value added tax). It's basically a sales tax that goes to the government, just like sales taxes in the US. If the writer has in fact lived in France for a "prolonged amount of time," as he says, he sure isn't very observant, else he would've known this. You pay TVA on every purchase here, although the percentages differ for necessities, regular purchases and luxuries.

As a separate issue, service is always included in the menu prices.


28 posted on 07/25/2006 7:42:08 AM PDT by Minette
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To: 2banana

Did you also know that stores have a specific time of the year when they can have a "sale" of items at reduced prices? That's right! I think it's July, when stores are allowed to lower prices to move old inventory.

God forbid they would actually have to compete against each other throughout the year.


46 posted on 07/25/2006 8:16:32 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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