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Hi Bob. I must admit that I've been less than civil over the last few days, but considering the overall tone of these threads, I hope you understand. Although you might have gotten the impression that I'm a "one size fits all conservative", that is really not the case at all. I'm actually a small-l libertarian and am liberal myself on certain issue such as capital punishment and gays. But anyhow, the Rudy conversation was off-topic and I shouldn't have brought it up.

You have quite a few broad stroke criticisms of some of the people on this thread. Care to pinpoint who you're talking about and offer some evidence/examples?

I think my post above pretty much sums it up. I'll repost it here...

I don't have a problem with people who genuinely support the Minutemen raising questions. It is healthy. If there is any nonsense going on, I will be the first to call for Simcox to be prosecuted. What I do have a big problem with are the freepers who have opposed the Minutemen from the very beginning acting as if they are part of the border security movement and feigning worry about how this might negativly affect the Minutemen when, in reality, they would love to see the organization crumble.

If you don't find this characterization to be accurate, I'd be happy to do some Googling and show you examples of this crowd trashing the Minutemen and the border-security movement in general long before these latest allegations surfaced. What you are seeing on these threads is a witch hunt. Period. FR is better than this.

What you are seeing on these threads is a witch hunt.

Is it really? That could only be true if there is nothing wrong. Yet you have already said that you don't know if there is anything wrong, but that you'll be first to call for their heads (or some such thing). It doesn't fit.

Instead, what I said upthread is the actual truth: you don't really want to ask if there's anything wrong, nor do you want anyone else to ask.

You'd rather spray the whole crowd with petty name-calling, like "Bush sycophants." Attacking the messenger has never worked. The message always gets out. The truth will out.