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When Will They Ever Learn... (American Jews)
Weekly Standard ^ | July 31, 2006 issue | David Gelernter

Posted on 07/24/2006 3:30:21 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: rbg81
That being said, the above phenomenon is NOT just limited to the Jews. It infects the Christian Left as well. Which is why both groups are slowly disappearing. That is the fate of those who have ceased to believe in G-d.

Well said.

21 posted on 07/24/2006 4:53:45 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: West Coast Conservative
FOR YEARS I have watched the Palestinians do absurdly self-destructive things, and have never understood them until now.

I find that an amazing statement. Gelernter was a victim of Ted Kaczynsi, the Unabomber.

22 posted on 07/24/2006 4:55:38 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: KenHorse

" == Do you think we're the only 2 Jews in the US who find Dems/Libs/Leftists the scum of the earth? == "

I can assure you, no. But just as you and your brother are unique within your family, I am unique within mine.


23 posted on 07/24/2006 4:57:02 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well when I heard alan colmes say the other night that he was Jewish, I thought, oh good grief!! If he represents most American Jews it makes me very sad.


24 posted on 07/24/2006 5:00:27 PM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: seppel

Gestapo much?


25 posted on 07/24/2006 5:01:03 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The time to slay RINOs is in the primaries but come game time it's time to flush real liberals)
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To: SJackson

"Yup, us Jews are the slickest political manipulators the world has know."

Ignore the wannabe gestap and, shalom


26 posted on 07/24/2006 5:02:18 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The time to slay RINOs is in the primaries but come game time it's time to flush real liberals)
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To: MadLibDisease

gestap=gestapo


27 posted on 07/24/2006 5:02:49 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The time to slay RINOs is in the primaries but come game time it's time to flush real liberals)
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To: KenHorse

No.


28 posted on 07/24/2006 5:02:49 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: jackv
Well when I heard alan colmes say the other night that he was Jewish, I thought, oh good grief!! If he represents most American Jews it makes me very sad

It's Sean Hannity who is pro Israeli and anti terror -- not Alan!

29 posted on 07/24/2006 5:06:23 PM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: MainFrame65
I always knew there we more MOT's than I thought
30 posted on 07/24/2006 5:11:37 PM PDT by KenHorse
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"Do you think we're the only 2 Jews in the US who find Dems/Libs/Leftists the scum of the earth?"

Krauthammer makes 3.


31 posted on 07/24/2006 5:14:31 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: seppel
2. Jews in the US know exactly what they re doing. They are pushing George into a corner, where he has to massively support Israel to get even 1 more Jewish vote, knowing how much they dislike the conservatives, but how important they are in the electoral college system. On top, they have the Dems in their pocket. The result: It does not matter who wins the WH, they have max support for Israel. Pretty clever heh?

You don't know the half of it. We Jews have developed Penis-Melting Robot Combs. Says one author, Ja'far Abbas:

"Even though what I write today will harm 'tourism' in Sudan, I consider it my duty to warn anyone who wants to come to Sudan to refrain from shaking hands with a dark-skinned man. Since most Sudanese are dark-skinned, he had better avoid shaking hands with anyone he doesn't know…"

Focusing on the report of the Sudanese man who lost his penis after contact with a comb, Abbas wrote: "No doubt, this comb was a laser-controlled surgical robot that penetrates the skull [and passes] to the lower body and emasculates a man!!

"I wanted to tell that man who fell victim to the electronic comb: 'You jackass, how can you put a comb from a man you don't know to your head, while even relatives avoid using the same comb?!'"

So, we have controlled the White House by threatening to unleash our deadly Penis Melting Robot Combs.

Do not mess with us.

32 posted on 07/24/2006 5:17:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: rbg81
That is the fate of those who have ceased to believe in G-d.

The old lure of the Golden Calf thing ... must be something about humans?

33 posted on 07/24/2006 6:01:28 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: West Coast Conservative

During WWII Communists worldwide were initially allies to the Nazis. This was because the USSR and Germany were allies, and jointly invaded Poland.

When the Germans turned on the USSR, and allied themselves with the Japanese who were at that time in China, and possibly fighting USSR as well, the worldwide Communist movement (including those Jews who were affilliated) changed to be anti-Nazi.

There was nothing patriotic about the US Communist behaviour. They were doing what they always do, following the international Communist line.

This explains why a surprising number of Jews are pro Palestinian, and now even pro Hezbollah, pro al Quaida, pro Iranian Mullah. They will support the pro Communist and their allies in whatever circumstance, even if that means the destruction of their homeland, Israel.


34 posted on 07/24/2006 7:10:55 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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'Jews don't like Republicans because we associate them all with Right Wing Christians who claim Jesus is the Messiah. That is offensive to us.'

Your friend is so offended by Christians and their faith, that he has sold his soul to the party of nihilism, socialism, and death. That has got to be the most insane, bigoted, and self-destructive political attitude I can imagine. I sincerely hope that his attitude is not typical of American Jews ... if it is, this country is in worse shape than I had thought.

35 posted on 07/24/2006 7:18:36 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Cohen forgets that the Mulims have been enraged by the turn of events since Napoleon's time. The Crusades hardly made a dent in the Muslim consciousness. But the humiliation of Western expansion did. They hate what Cohen prizes most: his liberalism, his nation that his secular view of the world deserves anything but to be eliminated.


36 posted on 07/24/2006 7:29:09 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: West Coast Conservative; SkyPilot
To paraphrase, he said 'Jews don't like Republicans because we associate them all with Right Wing Christians who claim Jesus is the Messiah. That is offensive to us.'

That is part of it with a small minority. If you want to get a good understanding of this phenomena, I recommend Why are so many Jews liberal?

To SkyPilot I would say that I more or less abandoned my Judaism because I so rarely heard the word G-d in synagogue and did not get answers or even sense an interest in the spiritual questions that consumed me. However, I am having a second look thanks to Rabbi David Aaron's columns at Jewish World Review and am waiting with great anticipation for this book "The Secret Life of G-d" (Actually he spells out the name which I understand is acceptable under certain circumstances). You might disagree but what he has taught me is that Judaism is more concerned with action than with concepts and the spiritual explanations are in the Kaballah.

37 posted on 07/24/2006 7:31:59 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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Bingo, that is the reason. So many Jews just cannot separate their fear, and it is fear of PubChristiansRightists ala GermanProtNazis that they overlook any Pub agenda which is very pro-Jewish, Israel, family, religious values and keep their conspiracy fear angle going. Dems simply take them for granted, use their money and it is the old FDR coaliton still in tact which is hard to overcome culturally and politically.


38 posted on 07/24/2006 7:39:38 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: rbg81

Lots of left wing people want to say we shouldn't forget the lessons of Viet Nam. I always reply back that we shouldn't forget the lessons of WW I.


39 posted on 07/24/2006 9:49:01 PM PDT by art_rocks
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Most people get the lessons of Vietname wrong anyway. The thing about the Vietnam war is that we had BEATEN the Viet Cong by the early 70s. It took the full-scale invasion of a conventional army to make South Vietnam fall in 1975. The US definitely had the firepower to stop that--we could have done it from the air. But, by that time, the Dems controlled Congress and we had lost the will. Of course, it didn't help that the South did a crummy job of defending itself. [Unfortunatley, I suspect the current Iraqi regime would have a similar meltdown if left tommorrow]


40 posted on 07/25/2006 3:32:41 AM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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