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"For many, the culprit is Proposition 209, the 1996 anti-affirmative-action bill backed by former UC Regent Ward Connerly, which made it illegal to use race-based preferences in admissions..."

Blacks need preferences???

I ask again, isn't Affirmative Action primarily free things for melanin and estrogen?

1 posted on 07/24/2006 2:10:01 PM PDT by flowerplough
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Where's the Affirmative Action to balance the decrease of males attending college? /s :P


2 posted on 07/24/2006 2:13:27 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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When the government categorizes people based on an arbitrary standard called "race" and then hands out money and opportunities based on that then how can it possibly be anything but RACISM?


3 posted on 07/24/2006 2:16:11 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow "The Bronze Rule")
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They keepin' it REAL! Don't want no suckah-jive EDJEECATION..!


5 posted on 07/24/2006 2:20:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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"UC may not be able to reinstate affirmative action, but the devastating decline in black enrollment has spawned discussion about how to revive the university's diversity within the boundaries of the law."

Hm....that is a puzzler. How do we legally discriminate against white people without making racial head counts?


6 posted on 07/24/2006 2:20:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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UC may not be able to reinstate affirmative action, but the devastating decline in black enrollment has spawned discussion about how to revive the university's diversity within the boundaries of the law.

In what way is it this decline devastating? UCLA still has plenty of diversity, just not the exact type the organization publishing this tripe wants to see.

7 posted on 07/24/2006 2:20:57 PM PDT by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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"For many, the culprit is Proposition 209, the 1996 anti-affirmative-action bill "

Noooooooo... the culprit is hard work, good grades, and personal responsibility. We all have an equal chance.

9 posted on 07/24/2006 2:26:42 PM PDT by avacado
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"Why? For many, the culprit is Proposition 209, the 1996 anti-affirmative-action bill backed by former UC Regent Ward Connerly, which made it illegal to use race-based preferences in admissions,"


Racism by any other name is still racism. Libs look at the world with racist colored glasses. Hate is all they stand for.


11 posted on 07/24/2006 2:31:30 PM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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For many, the culprit is Proposition 209...

This is the way liberals force their views on people. They state their misguided perspective, and then pretend many people believe it...tsk tsk...cmon liberals you can do better than that...
13 posted on 07/24/2006 2:36:28 PM PDT by brain bleeds red
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UCLA is a tough ticket for prospective students of any color. And the UC system doesn't give a crap about letting students into a school near their family home. 100 black freshman from the LA area seems like a lot to me.

This is a good time to be a black high school senior applying for admission to the elite schools, including UCLA. Having "URM" status in addition to grades, test scores and extra-curriculars will take a kid a lot farther than without URM status. Fact is, elite schools fight like hell to get qualified black freshman.


14 posted on 07/24/2006 2:40:07 PM PDT by SBprone
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I guess they are finally coming out and admitting that blacks can't get in on their own merit and accomplishments.

Hmmm, I think a person can achieve most anything they want if they apply themselves and work hard.

I wonder who has the racist views?
15 posted on 07/24/2006 2:45:34 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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Did this person ever think that maybe the blacks are attending OTHER colleges and not UCLA because it they think it SUCKS!


16 posted on 07/24/2006 2:47:13 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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"isn't Affirmative Action primarily free things for melanin and estrogen?"

I always thought it was conferring the privileges of education and competence on individuals who are neither educated nor competent.

17 posted on 07/24/2006 2:53:24 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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Maybe if we dumb down standards far enough, affirmative action won't be necessary at any school in the country.


18 posted on 07/24/2006 2:55:40 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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Of nearly 10,000 black students who graduated from Los Angeles County high schools this past June, just 1 percent will attend UCLA [...] Why? For many, the culprit is Proposition 209, the 1996 anti-affirmative-action bill...

And... where are the numbers for 1995 and 1997? That's where the decline will be apparent, if this is the real cause. The fact that these numbers are not mentioned at all is enough to convince me that the author either a) didn't understand this simple logic, b) knew that these facts would not support the desired conclusion, or c) simply didn't care about accuracy.

And if we want a second helping of well-cooked statistics:

While UC has admitted more students of color since an initial drop after Connerly's Proposition 209, the disparities are concerning. This year, black enrollment at UCLA will be the lowest in more than three decades—a 57 percent decline since 1996. Last year, Latinos comprised 17 percent of UC admissions, marking only a minor gain since 1997...

Translation: 1) black enrollment has declined, but we don't know whether it's significant (we don't know the typical variance over ten years), 2) latin enrollment has risen (but again, we don't know whether it's significant), 3) "students of color" enrollment has fluctuated (meaningless).
19 posted on 07/24/2006 3:15:53 PM PDT by xenophiles
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Not at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). Of nearly 10,000 black students who graduated from Los Angeles County high schools this past June, just 1 percent will attend UCLA, according to NPR's Morning Edition. Why? For many, the culprit is Proposition 209, the 1996 anti-affirmative-action bill backed by former UC Regent Ward Connerly, which made it illegal to use race-based preferences in admissions, employment and contracting throughout the state. When Connerly's term ended in January 2005, his message was clear: Don't bring back affirmative action, according to Black Issues in Higher Education. UC may not be able to reinstate affirmative action, but the devastating decline in black enrollment has spawned discussion about how to revive the university's diversity within the boundaries of the law. While UC has admitted more students of color since an initial drop after Connerly's Proposition 209, the disparities are concerning. This year, black enrollment at UCLA will be the lowest in more than three decades—a 57 percent decline since 1996. Last year, Latinos comprised 17 percent of UC admissions, marking only a minor gain since 1997, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

The culprit is simple they are not qualified to get into UCLA PERIOD. the 1% that are qualified get admitted. Wow imagine that what a concept and easily identifiable problem. I wonder if the 1% come from private or home schools. How come they don't tell us how many go to UC Davis or Santa Barbara or Chino or even Junior Colleges to get their grades up. Now looking at UCLA's football team you wouldn't think that 1% of the freshmen are black. That is another argument though.

20 posted on 07/24/2006 3:22:06 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (I am starting another underground railroad to help blacks escape from the Democratic plantation.)
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I would love to see a long term study on where all the affirmative action students wound up.......how many graduated, how many transferred to other colleges, what they're doing for a living now, how many dropped out, etc.

I refuse to believe that in today's society that any black who was willing to work hard and persevere will not get ahead and succeed like anybody else.

24 posted on 07/24/2006 3:45:00 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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In case some of ya'll have never seen the blog Discriminations, it's the best one out there on racial quotas and preferences.
25 posted on 07/24/2006 3:46:34 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

27 posted on 07/24/2006 4:04:12 PM PDT by jjw
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UC may not be able to reinstate affirmative action, but the devastating decline in black enrollment has spawned discussion about how to revive the university's diversity within the boundaries of the law

For UCLA: DIVERSITY = BLACK

I guess Asians and other minorites don't count.

28 posted on 07/24/2006 4:05:17 PM PDT by TheCipher
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I'm still waiting for the NBA to start affirmative-action. There is a strikingly few amount of white players.

Oh wait. They actually recruit the people most qualified. Hmmmmm..... Makes sense to me. When will colleges follow suit?
32 posted on 07/24/2006 4:19:59 PM PDT by An American in Turkiye
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