Posted on 07/24/2006 2:02:13 PM PDT by Mount Athos
...but they pay taxes right?
The search feature isn't working too well for me lately
"...but they pay taxes right? "
Your point being?
This author makes the same mistake that most Libs make when discussing this subject. Don't confuse the conservative values of a legal immigrant, who stood in line for years at an American Consolate until they could prove they had the means and the ability to make it in this country, with an illegal immigrant who flaunts all laws to sneak into this country illegally, work illegally, then demand social services.
In short, Latinos will more likely want a USA similar to the welfare state of Peurto Rico.
I am glad Heather wrote this. I see this in my own neighborhood and especially in Jackson Heights, Queens, where young Hispanic girls frequently have babies with whoknowswhatman. I am told that they show up at church but rarely donate and expect services. Jackson Heights has a terrible problem with overcrowding, drug dealing and prostitution. The middle class gains that the neighborhood has had are being destroyed once again. The schools are a mess.
No, the author didn't make that same mistake. She was pointing out that others had.
I've been saying this for years. Most Hispanics are NOT conservatives in any sense. In fact, their lifestyle is less conservative than that of most liberals. Alcoholism, illegitimacy, divorce, and adultery are rampant in Hispanic communities.
I think the conservative strategy is just to have parity with liberals on new Hispanics, or at least keep it 60/40.
"Conservatives, including open-borders conservatives, "
There is no such animal as an open borders conservative, period!
This article is more a discussion about culture than immigration. But, you go ahead and try to deflect the real reasons behind the article - the myth of the conservative hispanic.
You call Cuban Hispanics liberal? The premise of this essay is much too broad to paint all "hispanics" with the same brush.
There is a culture of perpetual poverty in the Hispanic community, I know, and it is very similar to the culture of perpetual poverty of the African Americans and the "ghetto".
The "barrio" mentality guarentees that this cycle will continue from generation to generation. The article points out all of the warning signs: That unwed pregnancies are no longer stigmatized, that it is acceptable to be on perpetual welfare, etc.
However, what is the root cause of this "barrio" mentality? The failure to assimilate into the "American" culture, instead relying on others in their own community due to their undocumeted status, and fueled I admit by biggoted Whites in their refusal to accept them. So instead they have turned inward and created their own subworld that has slowly morphed into what we have today.
Unfortunately the answer does not lie, as the author suggests, in more government programs, but instead in the Hispanic community itself changing the way they view education, self reliance, and responsibility. Unfortunately, for Hispanic leadership, like La Raza, victimhood is their only ticket to power, so since the change cannot be imposed from outside, and will not be adopted on the inside, things won't change.
The premise of "open border" and "amnesty" is what I was attacking. Did you not see those words in the last few paragraphs? The author was using the entire article as an argument against open borders and amnesty, which I agree, but not because Hispanics are inately "not conservative."
I didn't understand anything like that being suggested in the article by the author. Read it again, please, without speed-reading.
Unfortunately the answer does not lie, as the author indicates others suggest s , in more government programs, but instead in the Hispanic community itself changing the way they view education, self reliance, and responsibility.
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