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Let’s Be Friends with Syria
National Review Online ^ | July 24, 2006 | James S. Robbins

Posted on 07/24/2006 12:13:54 PM PDT by nikos1121

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I did not see this posted today, unless it was under a different title.

I have seen many postings here along with the recent comments by people like Michael Savage, whom I agree with often, calling for Bush to attack Syria and Iran.

This article poignantly points out that this is time for creative diplomacy and knowledge of what is going on. It is an opportunity for us to be true to what we started three years ago, ie...pushing for democracy in the Middle East.

It is a time for patience. It is time for looking at all options. It is not a time for jumping in and bombing or committing troops without thinking.

Condi Rice I think understands this, as her trip to Lebanon indicates that she is thinking along the lines of this article.

1 posted on 07/24/2006 12:13:55 PM PDT by nikos1121
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Death to Baath socialism!


2 posted on 07/24/2006 12:16:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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For Later


3 posted on 07/24/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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This is developing into an internal conflict within Islam between the Sunni and the Shi'a. The vast majority if Muslims are Sunni and these make up the traditional "Arab countries. The Shia are predominantly Persian and Iraqi. The Sunni Arabs, the traditional enemies of Israel, do not want to see the the Shi'a gain prominence in the region.
4 posted on 07/24/2006 12:24:13 PM PDT by Natural Law
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Syrians are Sunni or Shia?


5 posted on 07/24/2006 12:29:01 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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I sometimes think that a huge civil war between Sunni and Shi'ites would be the best solution to the ME problem.


6 posted on 07/24/2006 12:29:22 PM PDT by expatpat
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The largest religious group in Syria is the Sunni Muslims, of whom about 80 percent are native Syrian Arabs, with the remainder being Kurds, Turkomans, Circassians, and Palestinians.

Don't confuse Assad and the Baathist Party with any religion. They are largely Godless and are more than willing to dance for Iranian money and military aid.

7 posted on 07/24/2006 12:41:40 PM PDT by Natural Law
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No, but this raises the questions as to why would the Syrians want to support Hizbollah?


8 posted on 07/24/2006 12:44:05 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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I think several factors are in play. First the establishment of an elected democratic government in Iraq has been noted in the Arab world and that such an alternative can exist is sparking new ideas in the one party rule Arab states.

Second, the Iranians are making many in the Arab world nervous. The Iranians are espousing more than the anti-Israel bombast that has long been common in the area and are seemingly serious about using WMDs against Israel in some kind of apocalyptic scenario to bring about a world Islamic state. I think the leaders in Damascus and Cairo realize that Iran using WMDs against Israel would mean a nuclear holocaust that would likely include them or at least the overthrow of their regimes.

Lastly, the Hezbolla and similar radical groups have worn out their welcome in the international community and like North Korea are pariahs.

9 posted on 07/24/2006 12:56:35 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Be real friendly, send Damascus a free nuke on the end of a missile
11 posted on 07/24/2006 1:07:55 PM PDT by dalereed
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Its time we taught the Muslims and Arabs a lesson in total annihilation, because if we don't THEY WILL!

Should we include the Libyans in that total annihilation?

12 posted on 07/24/2006 1:13:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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New tagline:)


13 posted on 07/24/2006 1:13:35 PM PDT by rightazrain (“Ceasefire” is just another word for “reload.)
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"Its time we taught the Muslims and Arabs a lesson in total annihilation, because if we don't THEY WILL! Its the only choice we have!"...

We Privates all know that...It's the dam Generals that can't see it...Private BB, long time fan of "The Perfumed Prince"...NOT!

14 posted on 07/24/2006 1:14:04 PM PDT by litehaus
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bump


15 posted on 07/24/2006 1:14:45 PM PDT by rightazrain (“Ceasefire” is just another word for “reload.")
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...why would the Syrians want to support Hizbollah?

The Syrians have had a history of supporting whoever allows them the most leverage in their neighbor. For awhile during the Lebanese civil war it was the Druze - when the New Jersey shelled the Druze command post the commanding Syrian general was killed. Hezbollah has blossomed in the power vacuum in the two decades since then.

People tend to forget that for most of that time Syria wasn't Iran's "prison b!tch" as Mark Steyn put it, but her competitor for influence within the warring tribes of Lebanon. Since the withdrawal of formal Syrian forces after the assassination of Hariri, they've been scrambling to maintain that influence by acting as a conduit for Iranian weapons. That has put young Mr. Assad in a truly unenviable position - he supports Hezbollah or he is overthrown; he gives them too much support and he is overthrown.

What the author is suggesting is that by offering him protection against outside influence he may maintain his precarious hold on power. However, inasmuch as his probable successor would be Moslem Brotherhood and not allied with the Iranians one might argue that that would also reduce Iranian influence. What it would give us instead might be just as radical but less aggressive. So goes the argument. Personally I'm suspending judgment until we see what happens after Israel withdraws.

16 posted on 07/24/2006 1:27:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Since so many "moderate" regimes are as friendly as their fears of being overthrown by their much more Islamist populace permits them to be, perhaps coming to face an openly hostile Muslim nation might not be such a bad thing. So Syria is taken over by the Muslim fanatics? Time to face down Syria. The radicals are not going away; I'd rather face them now while we are strong and they are relatively weak. Perhaps we could flip them one by one.


17 posted on 07/24/2006 1:38:57 PM PDT by giobruno
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I agree. I don't see the urgency for us to go in there and upset the apple cart. This is a real opportunity. Assad is a wimp. I can't see how this guy sleeps soundly at night.

The Syrians are talking tough, but I don't think they want to engage the Israelis.

Also, how can anyone protect Assad? How can the Americans prop him up?

I agree, if he comes out against Hizbollah he's dead meat.

I'd love to see an all out war among the Arabs Sunni vs Shia countries..but it won't happen, but there is clearly a re-allignment...and the young people in these countries who are educated must like the idea of choices and the good life...in their life....

Very interesting times....but these war mongers asking Bush to "act" is irresponsible.

IF they attack us, that's another story.


18 posted on 07/24/2006 1:43:04 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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I'd love to see an all out war among the Arabs Sunni vs Shia countries...

The way things are going that one might be nuclear. Two sides filled with folks who want to be martyred for Allah and both of 'em have the Bomb. Cheery thought.

Just call me "Mr. Sunshine"... ;-)

19 posted on 07/24/2006 1:56:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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This article poignantly points out that this is time for creative diplomacy and knowledge of what is going on. It is an opportunity for us to be true to what we started three years ago, ie...pushing for democracy in the Middle East.

Is democracy in a region where people celebrated the events of 9-11 by dancing in the streets something we actually want?
20 posted on 07/24/2006 1:58:06 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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