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Child Killed By Falling Mirror At Wal-Mart
The Indy Channel ^ | 7-23-2006

Posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:21 AM PDT by Samwise

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To: DJ MacWoW
I read post 615 but that's not what was addressing.

However, tonight when you go to bed, go to bed happy that a child died because of his mothers negligence, you were right.

641 posted on 07/24/2006 6:11:32 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: new cruelty
As for me and mine, dinner was a success. The wife prepared a delicious meal that we all enjoyed.

Cool!! I lucked out - the husband cooked dinner, and it was edible....Just kidding, he is quite a good cook but I leave all up to him when it comes to the grill..I don't even know how to turn the danged thing on :)

We did an "eat whre you want" meal tonight, because I was sorting and folding laundry on the diningroom table...........so, I didn't have to listen to the 8yo.

LOL on all of it........we're such horrible parents, aren't we?

642 posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:15 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Darkchylde
How is it not? If the kid is sitting in the basket, playing with whatever toy you gave them, how is that not safe? If you're suggesting the kid would stand, is that before or after you told them to sit in the basket? If it's after, that's disobedience & that would need to be addressed.

Would you address it before or after he fell over the side and split his head open because you jerked the cart to a stop to grab him and he lost his balance?

643 posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:24 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Krodg
BTW, I think that article puts more blame on WalMart.

I don't. I honestly can't fathom a parent thinking it's safe to let a child climb on a mirror.

644 posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Dianna
How long does it take for a child to step on a mirror? 2 seconds? Maybe the mom looked away for 5 WHOLE seconds and completely missed it. She should be hung.

Your post 594

Now, IF we were to find out that the child was pulling on the mirror or banging it and the mother didn't notice, I would find the mother to be a problem.

645 posted on 07/24/2006 6:16:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TightyRighty
However, tonight when you go to bed, go to bed happy that a child died because of his mothers negligence, you were right.

Where did I gloat? I've been repeatedly attacked because I said the child should be in a cart and parents are responsible for their childs safety in a store. I NEVER called this anything other than heartbreaking and a tragedy. And you and others have attacked. I have refused to rise to the bait. If you see that as gloating, you are projecting something that's not there.

646 posted on 07/24/2006 6:21:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Dianna
Would you address it before or after he fell over the side and split his head open because you jerked the cart to a stop to grab him and he lost his balance?

It's a cart, not a racecar. Why would I be moving fast enough that I would have to jerk the cart to stop? You simply slow to a stop & address their behavior. It's not like you're running through the aisles at top speed. I'm calm enough not to feel I have to jerk the cart around.

647 posted on 07/24/2006 6:21:52 PM PDT by Darkchylde (Don't try my brother's coffee!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Actually on the very first page freepers started asking why the child wasn't in a cart. I'm not the only one.

And so you find that justification for your vilification of this woman who just lost her child? Or anyone, other than your own mother, that does not have have her/his child wrapped around arm or leg?

NO criticism of your mother on my part, just on you....you are the one who has been bragging about how your mother could leave you and your siblings OUT OF HER SIGHT and yet are condemning this poor woman for being 5 feet away from her child.

Taking care of a child is the responsibility of the parent.......no question of that...yet you are bragging about how "obedience and manners" was all that was needed for you and your siblings to be safe while out of your mother's sight.

Sorry - you are the one that is in the wrong in this discussion when you use that as your backup.

648 posted on 07/24/2006 6:22:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Darkchylde
By the way, if your child did get injured in this manner, I would not accuse you of being a negligent parent.

Putting a child in the basket is not unreasonable, people do it every day and millions of children are just fine. It just wasn't something I was comfortable with.

I would respond that it was a shame the child was injured and comment that the world is an imperfect place.

649 posted on 07/24/2006 6:22:45 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

My kids are with their grandparents on vacation. I guess I just have to trust them since they are way out of MY sight!

So a friend and I took the opportunity to go to dinner tonight. We passed a ten year old pushing a stroller with a toddler in it, no parent in sight.

At first we commented "where's the parents?" but then we realized we could have done the exact same thing. I was riding the bus home alone in 4th grade and watching my sister who was a kindergartener from 3-5 each afternoon. Both parents were no more than 10 minutes away from home but they trusted me at 10 y/o. We can say nowadays that parents have to be hyper vigilant, there are alot of crazies out there. But what's wrong with an older sibling taking a younger one for a stroll? We live in a very safe area, but we realize things can happen. We yearn for the days of our youth and independence is still a good thing. Sometimes we just have to trust our kids and have faith that things will turn out okay.

It made us sad that we automatically questioned the parents for allowing an older sibling to take a younger one out for a pre-dinner walk.


650 posted on 07/24/2006 6:22:55 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: Darkchylde

Unfortunately, you are living in la la land. 100% of the children 100% of the time are not going to obey their parents. Especially an excited child who grabs out at something they really like. Are they being disobedient? Not necessarily. What you and your mom don't seem to understand is that you can keep both your eyeballs on your kids and crap will still happen - that doesn't make you a terrible parent. Don't tell us we're bad parents because we don't keep our children tied at the hip 24/7. Yes, I let my 5 y/o walk a few feet away from me to look at things they like - I can assure you that's no worse than making your children walk next to you with their hands in your jeans.


651 posted on 07/24/2006 6:23:19 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Gabz
we're such horrible parents, aren't we?

It's been said before- "There, but for the grace of God, go I".

652 posted on 07/24/2006 6:25:44 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Gabz

You are something else. We didn't climb on mirrors. Unfortunately, this child did and Mom didn't stop it. That makes it even more tragic.


653 posted on 07/24/2006 6:26:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Where did I gloat?

Well, you only pinged 5 different posts for someone to look at 615.

654 posted on 07/24/2006 6:26:24 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: DJ MacWoW

Please take a reading comprehension class.


655 posted on 07/24/2006 6:26:55 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: TightyRighty
Well, you only pinged 5 different posts for someone to look at 615.

I didn't know pinging people to new info was gloating.

656 posted on 07/24/2006 6:28:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Now, IF we were to find out that the child was pulling on the mirror or banging it and the mother didn't notice, I would find the mother to be a problem.

LOL!! I said "pulling" which implies REPEATED activity. I said "banging" which also implies repeated movement. Repeated activity is much more noticable at a glance than a single activity.

The article pointedly did not say that the child was climbing on the mirror. Only that he had stepped on it.

Personally, if I had a store that children frequent I'd hope my mirrors were more securely attached.

Certainly, it is possible that the child was messing with that mirror for 5 whole minutes without the mother looking at him once. I suppose I could assume that she was a horrible mother, but that assumption would be no more valid than my previous one.

657 posted on 07/24/2006 6:28:44 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Gabz
Please take a reading comprehension class.

I'll sign up when you take a course in logic.

658 posted on 07/24/2006 6:29:42 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TightyRighty
I swear such a display of superiority I haven't seen in a long time.

YUP

659 posted on 07/24/2006 6:29:51 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Darkchylde
It's a cart, not a racecar. Why would I be moving fast enough that I would have to jerk the cart to stop? You simply slow to a stop & address their behavior. It's not like you're running through the aisles at top speed. I'm calm enough not to feel I have to jerk the cart around.

Slowing to a stop might take a fraction too much time. I think it is irresponsible to not address the matter immediately. Toddlers are awfully unsteady on their feet.

660 posted on 07/24/2006 6:30:11 PM PDT by Dianna
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