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To: MinorityRepublican
he called them unintentional recordkeeping errors

Having worked in the firearms sales industry myself, this excuse for not keeping records on hundreds of guns is pure BS. The record keeping is pretty much Rule One through Rule Ten in the business, and anyone who doesn't can't be trusted to have a dealer's license, plain and simple. Too bad he's in the NRA, no excuse for violating such important and fundamental rules. It's sort of like a maternity hospital losing track of who and where all the babies are.

3 posted on 07/23/2006 2:53:35 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby
...and anyone who doesn't can't be trusted to have a dealer's license, plain and simple.

In the US, there's this ancient, little used document I read recently, which had a section very much covering this subject:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

If you don't recognize that misused and abused old document, you can look it all up on Google under "Second Amendment to the Constitution, ratified December 15, 1791"

Now some say I only have a fleeting comprehension of the English language, and have only studied 5 others in the past, but I have a bit of trouble understanding how one can make the leap from those simple, eminently understandable, difficult to mis-construe words to requiring a Federal government license to own, possess, use, sell, trade or play with "Arms", especially "firearms".

It's sort of like a maternity hospital losing track of who and where all the babies are.

The last time I looked [and I've worked in the healthcare field], a hospital isn't required to have a Federal license to deliver babies. And if they misplace a few, which happens on a regular basis [just ask any PI, ambulance chasing trial lawyer like John Edwards], they have no FEDERAL license to revoke, unlike the above reference gun shop. And I can't for the life of me find in my copy of the US Constitution where hosptals, medical services or similar are required to have FEDERAL licenses. State licenses, yes. Federal, no. [And don't bring up the JCAH because it's not even applicable here.]

I agree that the record keeping could be sloppy, but I'm pretty sure that there is still no Constitutional authority for him to originate, keep and maintain those records and that his problems most likely stem from being with the NRA and a thorn in the jackbooted thugs of the BATFE's side... not his poor recordkeeping.

Note that his shop is "37th" ranked. What are the same JBT's doing about the 1 through 36th shops? Or maybe, they aren't as loud in their objections against the unConstitutional record keeping and licensing requirement, and aren't members of the NRA.

...can't be trusted to have a dealer's license?? He shouldn't have to have one. Or maybe you would prefer to live in the "Your Paperz Pleez" fascist/socialist state instead of a free Constitutional Republic, as this country used to be- before the socialists, with help from people with attitudes like you, turned it.

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson

"The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of."
--Albert Gallatin (1789)

"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!"
--Alexander Hamilton

Or maybe you would subscribe more to these sentiments:

"We can't expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism."
-- Nikita Khrushchev, speaking of Roosevelt's "New Deal"

8 posted on 07/23/2006 3:53:55 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: Dumpster Baby
They are - and while we're on the subject of inventory, the Pentagon can't keep track of its inventory! If the Pentagon can't, then how is a gun shop supposed to be able to account for every gun it sells? ATF bureaucrats are going after gun dealers for technical record-keeping errors. Which still hasn't stopped one criminal. No business in the world has total control over inventory. That's the point.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

10 posted on 07/23/2006 4:03:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dumpster Baby

>>>One through Rule Ten in the business, and anyone who doesn't can't be trusted to have a dealer's license, plain and simple.<<<

The ones who cannot be trusted are politicians who pass laws that require gun registration.


27 posted on 07/23/2006 5:23:40 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Dumpster Baby
The record keeping is pretty much Rule One through Rule Ten in the business, and anyone who doesn't can't be trusted to have a dealer's license, plain and simple.

Re-read Rule # 2 for the Federal Government.

42 posted on 07/24/2006 7:17:14 PM PDT by kcar
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