Hanged From a Crane Aged 16 (Justice Iran Style)

The Mirror (uk) ^ | 23 July 2006 | Susie Boniface

[Ready4Freddy]

Maybe not - she wasn't just hanged in the usual Western (civilization) way, a 4-5 ft sudden drop to break the neck.

No, I gathered that the noose was put on her while she was on the ground, then the crane operator slowly lifted her clear, causing a horrible death by strangulation...

This poor teen was hanged. I wonder if this was Iranian justice giving her a break?

[mrsmel]

I already noted that I was misinformed,thank you:) My reference to "the way things are going" in Canada,is,however,not out of line-example,the printer who got into legal trouble for refusing to print fliers for some gay event. You can't honestly tell me that things aren't getting ridiculously PC in Canada-I wish for the sake of Canadian conservatives and common sense that they weren't!

[eleni121]

"...residual in the conservative movement who think the government should decide details of personal life that are not harming others..."

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Really?...Are you describing the US? government? What govt? You are misstating facts by exagerating and by not defining the terms you are using.

[gondramB]

>>
Really?...Are you describing the US? government? What govt? You are misstating facts by exagerating and by not defining the terms you are using.<<

It sounds like you came in, in the middle of the discussion.

we were discuusssing various state laws.

[fanfan]

My reference to "the way things are going" in Canada,is,however,not out of line-example,the printer who got into legal trouble for refusing to print fliers for some gay event.

I agree, injustices happen to good people.

In the meantime, You can't honestly tell me that things aren't getting ridiculously PC in Canada

Are you going to make me come up with some examples of how PC has also caused harm in the US?

Nothing is perfect, and we Canadians have finally fought and won our government back.

Here is link to get you up to speed.

OK,....truth be known,....I'm a Harper-Bot!

;-)

[eleni121]

You posted:

"We execute people whjo committed crimes as children in this country too. We execute people with mental illnesses that contributed to their crimes."

And you continued by saying (paraphrase) that there is a "residual" conservative segment that wishes to regulate private behavior and that govt. should not regulate such.

Because you seem to be condemning this "segment" of conservatives I asked you to define the terms by being more specific about which branch/level of govt your refer to and what kind of behaviors that do not harm anyone you don't wish to see regulated.

You don't have to respond but don't go making absurd statements comparing Iran and the US by inferring that there are some conservatives that mimic Iranian mullahs without providing specifics.

[gondramB]

I thought I provided several examples where I thoguht conservatives should do better - if we think that Iran is wrong to hang people for adultry we can starty here fixing the less issue of arresting people who sell women vibrators.

if we draw sympathy from this story about the girl whose mental illness contributed to her adultry we can ask about our standards here for mental illness and punishment.

I didn't equate anytyhing American - I said there are problems right here in this country we can work on with consistant principles.

We can't fix Iran but we could start applying these same conservative principles here and now.

[mrsmel]

Oh, I can't disagree with you that PC has gotten out of hand in the US,and I could help you find examples-the ONLY diffrence is that we have a head start on putting the brakes on it somewhat. You guys are catching up ;D

[mrsmel]

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

[TEEHEE]

THEFT: Amputation of hands or feet for persistent offenders.

This is actually not a bad idea.

[gondramB]

>>"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."<<

I don't know what that means but it sounds clever.

[mrsmel]

In this case,it means that things should be taken in context. It is foolish to demand "consistency" by comparing some law against adult women buying vibrators,and thinking that we should be "consistent" in our principles by demanding enforcement of such a law,to religious fascists hanging a sixteen year old girl for fornication. I'm a conservative,and a Christian,and am all for a decent society,but to demand "consistency" by comparing these two cases is foolish in the extreme. I think that the homosexual agenda is undermining our country in more ways than the obvious ones,but I still would never demand the death penalty for them on the basis of their homosexuality!

[gondramB]

I appreciate te explanation.

There was at least some support for sharia law on homosexuality in this thread but I think most of us are perfectly comfrotable opposing gay marriage and yet not calling for the death penalty.

If I had know how badly it would be misunderstood I would have picked another thread to make my point (that I make periodically)that we should periodically re-examine our laws in light of our principles.

I thought this thread was a good jumping off point but it went badly.

[Screaming_Gerbil]

The leftist feminists believe that it (Sharia Law) will never happen here - the laws in effect in the United States will protect them.

In the short term view, they are correct.

In the longer term view, demographics (smaller families and aborting babies on the leftist side vs larger families and immigration on the Islamic side) and "direct action in the streets" (something the leftists love to talk about) will make it so that if this trend is unchecked, their grand-daughters (or others' grand-daughters) will have to deal directly with this Islamic / Sharia Law stuff...