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To: gondramB

But there are CO2 core ice measures that correlate over the long run (10,000 years +) than any other single factor.

There is a minor problem with that correlation, in that rising temperatures from other factors, releases CO2 into the atmosphere by melting ice, heating the oceans, the increase in biological activity and similar such factors.

 

Here Comes the Sun

"Carbon dioxide, the main culprit in the alleged greenhouse-gas warming, is not a "driver" of climate change at all. Indeed, in earlier research Jan Veizer, of the University of Ottawa and one of the co-authors of the GSA Today article, established that rather than forcing climate change, CO2 levels actually lag behind climatic temperatures, suggesting that global warming may cause carbon dioxide rather than the other way around."

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"Veizer and Shaviv's greatest contribution is their time scale. They have examined the relationship of cosmic rays, solar activity and CO2, and climate change going back through thousands of major and minor coolings and warmings. They found a strong -- very strong -- correlation between cosmic rays, solar activity and climate change, but almost none between carbon dioxide and global temperature increases."

 

CO2-Temperature Correlations

[ see also: Indermuhle et al. (2000), Monnin et al. (2001), Yokoyama et al. (2000), Clark and Mix (2000) ]

[see: Petit et al. (1999), Staufer et al. (1998), Cheddadi et al., (1998), Raymo et al., 1998, Pagani et al. (1999), Pearson and Palmer (1999), Pearson and Palmer, (2000) ]

 

Global warming and global dioxide emission and concentration:
a Granger causality analysis

http://isi-eh.usc.es/trabajos/122_41_fullpaper.pdf


51 posted on 07/23/2006 12:32:14 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: ancient_geezer

That's a good debate to have and that's why I said CO2 levels correlate rather than saying they cause.


Either way tit points to global warming as a real problem but it may not be be that human causation is the major factor.


55 posted on 07/23/2006 12:38:10 PM PDT by gondramB (The options on the table have been there from the beginning. Withdraw and fail or commit and succeed)
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