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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Good points.

From 1965 and the Ia Drang through 1969 in the A Shau, the American military, constrained by policital interferrence (McNamara's "gradual escalation"; no hot pursuit policies) nonetheless delivered at great cost, absolute military victory in Viet Nam.

Their tactical victory was manifest in a treaty that ended the war and recognized S. Vietnam's fledgling but real democratically elected government.

Excerising their post watergate stranglehold on political power, however, the baby boom left, the self same left that today is handwringing over Israel's self defensive actions against our mutual enemies, [including Sen Kennedy, who in 1969seizing only upon the distorted, biased and incomptent newspaper reporting of the MSN, made dramatic speeches during that war, as now, declaring the sacrifice by the military to be entirely "senseless" (when in fact the victory at A Shau, disrupted for more than a year a planned invaison by N. Viet nam) leading the public to become discouraged] emasculated U.S. policy by compelling the grounding of U.S. B-52's or other military support of the S. Vietnamese. With that assurance of U.S. inaction, delivered by the baby boom left, w/in 2 years the N. Invaded en mass (perfect targets for B-52's) and overwhelmed S. Vietnamese forces, leading to the grotesque and haunting pictures of the American embassy evacution and eventually to Cambodian genocide...

The American military that delivered victory in Viet nam but was sold out by the liberals, nonetheless, contributed in no small way to our eventual victory over Soviet communism under Reagan, as they spurred improvements in our defensive capabilities and demonstrated combat effectiveness and commitment, that terrified our enemies. Indeed our Gulf War I victories were led by Viet Nam veterans who applied lessons they learned there, technology developed there and who again demonstrated an aroused America was no nation to mess with.

As the famous quote from Hamburger Hill (the A Shau movie) makes clear, the real enemy of America were home grown leftists, and as you point out some of them are still with us:

"Newsman: [trying to interview GIs returning to base after a hard day of fighting] Hey, word down at division is you guys can't take this hill. What do you have to say about that? In fact Senator Kennedy insists you guys haven't got a chance at all.

Sgt. Frantz: [glares at Newsman for a few seconds] You really like this sh*t, don't you? It's your job, a story, wait here like a f*cking vulture for someone to die so you can take a picture.

Newsman: [becoming angry] It's my job...

Sgt. Frantz: I got more respect for those little bast*rds up on the hill. They take a side, you just take pictures. You probably don't even do your own f*cking"


35 posted on 07/23/2006 3:13:08 PM PDT by Gail Wynand (Power is only proportionate when it is sufficient to overcome the aggressor.)
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To: Gail Wynand; All

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MEMORIES of VIETNAM

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/articles.php?p=2785&page=1&cat=59

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36 posted on 07/23/2006 3:54:26 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Gail Wynand; All

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NEVER FORGET


Senator TED KENNEDY's fooling our U.S. Congress into cutting off all funding for the South Vietnamese Military to fight for its own Freedom with...

and then all our Humanitarian/Medical Aid as well...

...brought for us to sadly see in the end:


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


Especially sad since a young Senator toured all over South Vietnam in 1965 to see for himself what the Vietnam War was really all about:

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm (See 5th Picture down)


He just knew better then.
He for sure just knows better now.


NEVER FORGET


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37 posted on 07/23/2006 4:10:28 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Gail Wynand; ALOHA RONNIE

bump!


41 posted on 07/24/2006 7:12:44 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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