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Disability Rights Advocate Backs Bush Embryonic Stem Cell Research Bill Veto (Joni Eareckson Tada)
Life News ^ | 7/20/06 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/22/2006 9:46:57 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: marshallherman

Got a link to substantiate your comment?


22 posted on 07/22/2006 10:58:41 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: marshallherman

There is absolutely NO LIMIT to embryonic stem cell research funding.


23 posted on 07/22/2006 10:58:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marshallherman

Private organizations can spend all the money and destroy all the lives they want. But then again I'm sure YOU consider some leftist scientist at Harvard is an unbiased source.


25 posted on 07/22/2006 11:05:23 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marshallherman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663376/posts


27 posted on 07/22/2006 11:12:50 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: devane617
BS Joni...You DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE DISABLED COMMUNITY!!! I am part of that community, and overwhelmingly we are upset the President vetoed the bill. This is just plain BS. Go to newmobility.com forum for a view of how the disabled community feels.

She speaks for my wife {quad of 20 years} and for me as well disabled. But then again we do not support the ADA as applied to the private sector either. Adult stem cells are the obviously the most promising way to go. I also have two other family members life long confined to wheelchairs {30 plus years} and they support Joni :>}

28 posted on 07/22/2006 12:25:12 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: turnrightnow

I don't understand how people like MJF can think so much of themselves in this way that someone else's life's meaning is reduced to what it's sacrafice can do for ME, ONLY ME. Have to say though that I saw him on t.v. the other day when I watched that movie on CBS about Mort Kondracke and his deceased wife Millie. He looked really really bad and I almost didn't recognize him--couldn't believe my eyes


29 posted on 07/22/2006 12:33:33 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: wequalswinner

The whole argument boils down to one's view of and/or belief in God and the uniqueness of humans within creation. It's very easy (and logical) to have a utilitarian view of life if one believes that we are all no more than cosmic evolutionary accidents who therefore have no relative value compared with any other accident on the planet.
Killing many, no matter where they lie on life's continuum, for the benefit of a few (who will then eventually die of the next disease/illness) is immoral, no matter how you rationalize it.


30 posted on 07/22/2006 12:49:41 PM PDT by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
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To: tutstar

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they've been using bone marrow transplants (audlt stem cells) to treat and cure cancer patients for decades. I'm sure many yrs. of research went in to developing that process before they tried it out on humans.


31 posted on 07/22/2006 1:24:34 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

God Bless her.


32 posted on 07/22/2006 1:25:08 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: marshallherman; lilylangtree
Diabetes has been cured in mice using drug therapy and it's just too bad the jdrf would rather advocate for fetal research killing babies rather than research for humans with something that has already been proven successfully in mice. Many pro-life people unknowingly donate to this organization .
 
Diabetes in Mice Cured Using Non-Embryonic Sources
 
Diabetes Foundation Loses its Way
 
Adult pancreas stem cells can make insulin
 
A Stem-Cell Defection, A congressman educates.

33 posted on 07/22/2006 1:41:30 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: devane617

She speaks for my wheelchair bound best friend.

And we here at Free Republic don't believe in socialistic government spending for questionably ethical and questionably effective research.


34 posted on 07/22/2006 2:00:27 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: turnrightnow

I disagree.

This has nothing to do with evolution, and a belief in God is not necessary to show humanity towards the unborn.


36 posted on 07/22/2006 2:04:37 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: marshallherman
No, I disagree.

I wouldn't use this treatment if I had AIDS for the same reason why Joni Eareckson Tada wouldn't use embryonic stem cells to treat her spinal cord injury as stated in this thread.

It's immoral and unethical for human embryos to be killed in order to use their cells to cure someone else with a disease. That's why President Bush vetoed the Embryonic Stem Cell Research Bill.
37 posted on 07/22/2006 2:07:26 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: Coleus

Thank you. I didn't know.


38 posted on 07/22/2006 2:57:42 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: wagglebee
"People like me -- who are medically fragile -- are left vulnerable and exposed in a society that views human life as a commodity which can be experimented upon or exploited," she explained.

Amen to that.

39 posted on 07/22/2006 3:00:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: cva66snipe

So, if we find embryonic stem cells helps people with SCI's then I encourage you and your wife both to not us the treatment. However, the vast majority of the disabled community will be lined up day one...


40 posted on 07/22/2006 5:43:58 PM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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