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To: nuconvert

I appreciate your point of view--there were many Germans and Japanese, I am sure, who were horrified by the actions of their government. They paid dearly for a war they may have objected to.

Our WWII stance was total war until total victory and unconditional surrender followed by an unprecedented act of forgiveness and charity as America rebuilt the devastated nations.

I leave it to others to characterize whether what we did to win WWII was justified and leave my judgment simple: It worked and it provided a longer lasting peace than the armistice of 1918 and subsequent Versaille "peace" treaty.

BTW I have met some Muslims who do not openly hate us. They all however, do hate Jews and are quite vocal in saying so. I have worked cheek to jowl with literally hundreds of Muslims. I have grown fond of and relied on friendship with individual Muslims who looked to me for friendship and assistance in return. Tragically, in a war we will eventually wage with them, a war they may or may not support, they will suffer consequences along with the others who wish to kill us.

In the Civil War in America brother fought brother and both sides lost lives. The war ended slavery.

This war will end nothing if it is waged to the end of achieving a "cease-fire". The carnage will continue, this is unquestionable as the carnage has been non-stop since (and even before) 1948 as the Jews struggled for their exostence in Tel Aviv, Haifa and in Jerusalem. It did not stop after ceasefires imposed by the west and land giveaways extorted from Israel in return for "peace" in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2000, 2003, 2005 (unilateral withdrawal from Gaza).

To borrow and paraphrase from Winston Churchill, the Muslim is either at your throat or groveling at your feet. I prefer the latter endstate--have seen enough death caused by the former.

Thanks for being civil...


35 posted on 07/22/2006 10:02:44 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: the anti-mahdi

I am all for taking the fight to the enemy. I wish we'd been tougher all along in Iraq. A WWII attitude when fighting is fine with me, though targeting civilians is not acceptable. (collateral damage is unavoidable, I know)

The majority of Iranians want freedom and an end to their oppressive regime, and what we need to end up with in Iran, is an ally, not an enemy. Calling for the destruction of the country is not only unnecessary, and inhumane, it's stupid. Bombing the crap out of their country isn't going to make them an ally.
Helping them get rid of their murdering regime, will.
That's where all our efforts need to be.


37 posted on 07/22/2006 10:22:21 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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