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To: Inkie

Not neccesarily---I had an employee who gave me a fictitious SS number which I did not find out about until 3 years into his employment with me. It wasn't a number that belonged to someone else, it was a number he or the forgerer made up. I always wondered what happened to the money he--and I--contributed


18 posted on 07/21/2006 9:08:15 PM PDT by metalcor
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To: metalcor
I had an employee who gave me a fictitious SS number which I did not find out about until 3 years into his employment with me. It wasn't a number that belonged to someone else, it was a number he or the forgerer made up. I always wondered what happened to the money he--and I--contributed

The same thing that happened to the money that's been confiscated under your real number- it was spent before it ever made it to DC, (probably spent long before you actually earned it), and you'll never see it again anyway. There's no point in being upset about a fraudulent number, it's no more illegitimate than the real system.

35 posted on 07/22/2006 3:57:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We gotta watch out for the Hellbazoo and the Hamas...)
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To: metalcor

And I'll bet because of labor laws and fear of being sued, you wouldn't tell that person's future employer that they'd been terminated for providing a false SS#, right ?

Most employers have taken the position that they won't do anything except confirm the dates of employment when somebody uses them as a reference. They won't tell the future prospective employer whether the person quit, was fired, or why they were fired.

That's undoubtedly why there are 246 million ESF records -- these illegals get caught, but they just go out and find another job using a new a different forged SS#.


47 posted on 07/24/2006 9:04:21 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: metalcor

The lack of an actual verification against a database was a great flaw in the 1986 law which supposedly required proof of a valid SS card to obtain work.

I think one of the best steps that could be taken at the State level would be to change their Driver's Licenses and ID Cards to an RF ID card. Encrypted and unduplicatable, and checked against the database to verify it is active. Then change their own State employment laws to require that this form of ID be used before any person can be hired.

I'd actually like to see it used like a FasTrak pass is used for toll lanes on highways, too. Every underpass could check that it gets a valid signal bounced back from every car that passes. If no signal from an RF Driver's License, then the nearest Highway Patrol could pull the person over, and if no valid Driver's License, impound the vehicle. Sell vehicles to pay for the system. Get unlicensed drivers -- including illegals -- off our highways. In Southern California, this would probably save billions in highway expansion that would no longer be necessary.


49 posted on 07/24/2006 9:16:21 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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