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To: Nate505
"Wait, so according to you alcohol being legal has kept many alcohol users from being heroin addicts, most likely because they have a legal means of accquring their preferred product"

The legality of alcohol has made it less likely that these law abiding "drug" users would gateway to illegal heroin.

"but making pot legal would increase the number of pot users, and therefore would increase the possibility of the number of heroin users because.....why is this?"

Making pot legal has two effects, both at odds with each other. On the one hand, a law abiding legal pot user, like today's alcohol user, will be less likely to gateway to illegal heroin.

On the other hand, there is a percentage who will gateway to illegal heroin (either from alcohol or legal pot). If the legalization of pot will increase the number of pot users (and I've always contended that pot use could at least double or triple), and a given percentage of those will gateway to heroin, we will have more heroin users.

What the NET result of both the effects combined would be, I don't know.

145 posted on 07/22/2006 7:44:26 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen; Nate505
On the other hand, there is a percentage who will gateway to illegal heroin (either from alcohol or legal pot). If the legalization of pot will increase the number of pot users (and I've always contended that pot use could at least double or triple), and a given percentage of those will gateway to heroin, we will have more heroin users.

Then by the same token, the legality of alcohol has given us more heroin users.

151 posted on 07/22/2006 5:09:28 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
The legality of alcohol has made it less likely that these law abiding "drug" users would gateway to illegal heroin.

I would agree, for a myrid of reasons. Making pot legal has two effects, both at odds with each other. On the one hand, a law abiding legal pot user, like today's alcohol user, will be less likely to gateway to illegal heroin.

I agree again.

On the other hand, there is a percentage who will gateway to illegal heroin (either from alcohol or legal pot). If the legalization of pot will increase the number of pot users (and I've always contended that pot use could at least double or triple), and a given percentage of those will gateway to heroin, we will have more heroin users.

That's if you buy the theory that a person using a drug of any kind is more inclined to use a drug like heroin. I don't believe that is necessarily the case. I do know with prohibition, you tend to cut off the milder drugs and increase the harder drugs. I find it amazing that heroin is a much more available drug in the US than, say, raw opium, which was a staple in this country in the mid to late 1800's, yet a far less addictive drug than heroin.

153 posted on 07/22/2006 10:41:06 PM PDT by Nate505
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