Posted on 07/20/2006 10:33:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
When one of theses groups such as Hamas or Hezbollah or a country like Syria,Iraq or Iran get out of hand and threaten to blow the whole shooting match inti flames which may include their kingdom they make their moves.
They will set on their hands and let Israel pound them for a while as long as the U.S. and the Western Nations keep them on a lease and don't let them go to far.
When Israel does win big [like the Six Day War,Yon Kippur etc.] and gains more land they show up with the oil thumb screws and pressure the U.S. and Europe to rein in Israel with economic threats and they do regardless of which party is in power.
That's what this private visit by the Saudis with Bush and Rice is about.
They have let the Israelis pound on Hezbollah and the U.S. and Europe moderately encourage them but they are coming to remind Bush not to let them go too far.
They are not going to let anyone upset their oil stranglehold and source of wealth and great economic power in the world because if they do they are finished.
After the visit watch the tone once again begin to shift with the U.S. and the Western Nations starting once again for the 100th time to pressure Israel to back off.
Their will never be peace in the Middle East until those that are really responsible for the trouble and turmoil that affects the whole world from that area are dealt with.
It is the Saudi family who bankroll Islam and use it and it's oil to manipulate the West, and keep their people poor and in control and themselves wealthy and powerful.
Western administrations, Saddams, Iranian leaders,etc.etc, come and go but the Saudis remain, always in the shadows, but nothing happens in the Middle East without their input,influence or blessing, period.
It's going to take some one who can't be bought or influenced economical to bring peace to the Middle East that let's out most men and all political leaders of all countries.
That's why God is going to have to do it.
Alas, no cable here, I'm stuck with Nightline...
Funny piece from Haaretz on Media Bias:
(Edited and Paraphrased, of course!)
DICTIONARY OF WAR CLICHE'S
July 17, 2006
Like every important event, the war in Lebanon has already given us a large variety of spin and banal political clichés, from Israel, Lebanon and the international community. A leader usually throws an expression into the air that the ordinary citizen will pick up and relay to every passing television camera.
So here it is - the first big parade of words. Readers can suggest additions by sending them to rosnersdomain@haaretz.co.il.
We have hit a large part of their weapons arsenal (IDF): And in two weeks they'll get more by way of Iran or Syria.
We condemn both sides...: Conan O'Brien had a good one perfectly suitable for this. "This morning the Vatican weighed in on the crisis. The Vatican came out and condemned Israel's attacks on Lebanon... which is great, because all day yesterday, the Jews and Muslims were asking, 'What do the Catholics think?'"
United Nations Delegation: Are you Americans? You're not Americans? Then why would you even think Israel is going to listen to you? (The same goes to EU envoys, Russian messengers, and all other goodwill ambassadors).
Special envoy Vijay Nambiar: The operation will continue for as long as it takes us to learn how to pronounce your name right.
At some point in the future, the secretary intends to travel to the region (U.S State Department):
At some point in the future Secretary Rice also intends to have a hair cut, to ride a horse. and to retire after a long, fulfilling career as President of The United States.
The situation is very serious, very grave (EU's Solana): The EU was impotent so far, and intends to stay so - but will always be ready to give a grave assessment of "the situation."
How about sending an international force?
We have exercised pressure on the Syrian government (Italian foreign minister): The truth is, the world hasn't yet put real pressure on Syria. Just consider this: The UN started a process of investigating the parties responsible for the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri. This should have led to more Security Council resolutions and more sanctions on Syria - but it never happened. At such a pace, the resolution might be ready by the time Assad's grandson comes to power.
International force: A military unit capable of escaping as fast as everyone else.
The Lebanese army is strong enough (Israel): To do nothing. The chances it will fight Hezbollah, so I'm told by Lebanese in the know, is zero. The military is mostly Shi'ite and is taking orders from the president, a Syrian puppet. On the other hand, Israel doesn't trust an international force, and for good reasons.
No more. Israel will not be held hostage - not by terror gangs or by a terrorist authority or by any sovereign state (Ehud Olmert): Well, not until next week.
Everyone wants it to stop now (Tony Blair): It's like saying "everyone wants peace," or "everyone wants to be rich". Of course everyone wants it to stop - on their terms!
Disproportionate / Disproportionate response: This expression is the clear winner of the day, with many readers suggesting it should be included in our dictionary.
Michael Weingarten wrote: "How about adding 'disproportionate'? What does it mean? If they kill 10 of our guys, we should only kill 10 of theirs, or it's not proportional?"
Bruce Feldman of West Lafayette, Indiana, suggested: "A dangerous condition threatening an actual solution to a problem. Targets of disproportionate response are entitled to the status of "victims."
As long as it takes: Usually means as long as the U.S. administration allows it to happen. In the current crisis the Americans are sensing there's a genuine opportunity to weaken Hezbollah.
The fragile Lebanese democracy: The Arab world is now working on a new definition for democracy. From now on please use "democracies" to denote countries in which there's a weak government chosen by the people, and a strong militia controlled by outside forces. Thus, the democracy is safe on both accounts: You cannot act against the government, as it is a legitimate, democratically-elected leadership, and you cannot ask the government to take responsibility for its territory as it is too weak to act against the militias, and you don't want to risk its collapse.
Hezbollah is a terror organization: And like all terror organizations, it is allowed to get people elected to the parliament, operate freely in a sovereign state and demand negotiations with its leadership.
Resolution 1559: Yet another proof that the UN is capable of calming a troubled area, and that good paperwork is an efficient tool in the war against terror.
We are monitoring the situation: By way of drinking champagne, having fun and talking about a whole lot of other issues.
**found it on a blog...imagine blogging while you are hearing the sound of artillery interspersed with the sound of katyushas..**
I've lived in Detroit....
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Now that Lebanon's infrastructure has been damaged badly, Communication, transportation, after Hezballah is removed from the area will Israel pay to rebuild Lebanon? Will Syria and Iran pay to rebuild? I imagine there will be aid coming from U.S.
As I understand it we have been giving foreign aid all along to Lebanon.
Thanks for the link, interesting.
Reading this was disturbing and proves that the WOT must continue and succeed:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3271274,00.html
"Egyptian cleric tells children's TV show: Come on to the jihad, encourages child-soldiers to join holy war
Yaakov Lappin
An Egyptian Islamic cleric working for the state ministry of religious endowment has used a children's television program to encourage young children to strive for holy war."
Appreciate the info. Teaching children nothing but hatred and hostility will ruin them.
Hiya, sleuth. I'm baaaaak. Can live without the power, lights, ac, etc., but no FR...terrible. Have you heard from cardinal? Not all of the area has power back. There are still almost 1/2 million without. Thank heaven the temperature has dropped.
It's pathetic.
LOL...not only have I heard from the cardinal..but, we have been worried about you together.
He lost his power at home also...but, he posted from his office.
I am SO glad you are alright...but, I was predicting that other than being hot, possibly cranky, you would be climbing the walls from FR withdrawal...LOL
I must have been right!
You have got me pegged. When I realized this was going to be of some duration, I stared at the computer for a bit thinking hard about whether there just might be a way to have FR at least...silly goose that I am.
Palestinian factions agree to cease rocket fire at Israel
Ynet:
Palestinian factions agree to cease rocket fire at Israel
Palestinian factions agreed to a cessation of Qassam rocket launching at Israel from Gaza. The decision was reached following a Hamas initiative and in anticipated to come into play at midnight Saturday.
That having been said, a number of militant groups already announced that they will not honor such an agreement. (Ali Waked)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670476/posts
"Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us."
--Golda Meir
I was thinking that if that had happened to me...I probably would have told my husband that I was taking my laptop to a Hotel with the internet...because I was NOT, not going to be able to freep!! LOL
I hope you all are okay...that it was only the electricity out..no storm damage??
Just a lack of power. No storm damage, but there is plenty in the area.
We just got it back! And I was soooo hoping for a FEMA debit card...!
Where is the new ME thread?
Oh my God. That is a beautiful shot of Haifa.
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