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7/21 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/21/06 | me

Posted on 07/20/2006 10:33:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: sageb1

No problems with anyone.

;^)


2,321 posted on 07/21/2006 9:48:43 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Brian Williams, how do you feel about being an idiotic, tan-in-a-can pantywaist?)
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To: Txsleuth
"I am truly disappointed in the lack of LIVE coverage from Israel at night.."

Hard to take for us night owls, but understandable.

2,322 posted on 07/21/2006 9:49:13 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: La Enchiladita

It is very apropo and thanks. This battle has been fought since the beginning.

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


2,323 posted on 07/21/2006 9:49:22 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: wildcatf4f3
"Just walked in the door with the idea of an Inchon type amphib landing behind the static defences that hizboolavirus has erected and , bang, yours was the first post i read. Yeah, go around and to the heart. "

"Israel has been trying to break the back of Hezbollah resistance in the south through air attack, special operations and probing attacks. This clearly hasn't worked thus far. That does not mean it won't work, as Israel applies more force to the problem and starts to master the architecture of Hezbollah's tactical and operational structure; however, Israel can't count on a rapid resolution of that problem.

The Israelis have by now thought the problem through. They don't like operational compromises -- preferring highly focused solutions at the center of gravity of an enemy. Hezbollah has tried to deny Israel a center of gravity and may have succeeded, forcing Israel into a compromise position. Repeated assaults against prepared positions are simply not something the Israelis can do, because they cannot afford casualties. They always have preferred mobile encirclement or attacks at the center of gravity of a defensive position. But at this moment, viewed from the outside, this is not an option.

An extended engagement in southern Lebanon is the least likely path, in our opinion. More likely -- and this is a guess -- is a five-part strategy:

1. Insert airmobile and airborne forces north of the Litani to seal the rear of Hezbollah forces in southern Lebanon. Apply air power and engineering forces to reduce the fortifications, and infantry to attack forces not in fortified positions. Bottle them up, and systematically reduce the force with limited exposure to the attackers.

2. Secure roads along the eastern flank for an armored thrust deep into the Bekaa Valley to engage the main Hezbollah force and infrastructure there. This would involve a move from Qiryat Shimona north into the Bekaa, bypassing the Litani to the west, and would probably require sending airmobile and special forces to secure the high ground. It also would leave the right flank exposed to Syria.

3. Use air power and special forces to undermine Hezbollah capabilities in the southern Beirut area. The Israelis would consider a move into this area after roads through southern Lebanon are cleared and Bekaa relatively secured, moving into the area, only if absolutely necessary, on two axes of attack.

4. Having defeated Hezbollah in detail, withdraw under a political settlement shifting defense responsibility to the Lebanese government.

5. Do all of this while the United States is still able to provide top cover against diplomatic initiatives that will create an increasingly difficult international environment." -- Stratfor

yitbos

2,324 posted on 07/21/2006 9:49:50 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Txsleuth

Did you hear Yoni on HH tonight? He said no invasion till maybe next week.

They just don't have enough boots yet and will be calling up more reserves.

They're also very concerned because Hezz has a new anti-tank missile supplied by Russia, guess it is deadly for their tanks.


2,325 posted on 07/21/2006 9:50:54 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: sageb1

Yes...no kidding the planet is not big enough for the both of us, or the three of us....we have the answer to how to live and prosper...they have the key to enslavement.


2,326 posted on 07/21/2006 9:51:43 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (high compression hothead here)
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To: varmintxer

This is from Yoni's blog.

Syrian Resupply
Friday, July 21, 2006 5:51 PM

Three things were on the evening news in Israel that must be brought to light.

Elite IDF units have found on the ground in Lebanon a large number of the most up to date Russian man portable anti tank missles. The missle is the AT-14 Kornet and Hizbullah was taught how to use it bu Iranian instructors.

Second the 220mm rockets that hit Haifa today were of recent manufacture in Syria.

Lastly and most import Syria has a a current on going operation to resupply Hizbullah with rockets and other equipment.


2,327 posted on 07/21/2006 9:53:52 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: bray

You are welcome. I tried putting "God bless Israel" into a machine translator (English to Hebrew) but all I can get is Hebrew script.

Do you happen to know how to write out the Hebrew phonetically (for an English speaker) If so, also "Long live Israel!"

Thanks. I love, love, love your treatise on the spiritual warfare that confronts us.


2,328 posted on 07/21/2006 9:54:03 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Brian Williams, how do you feel about being an idiotic, tan-in-a-can pantywaist?)
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To: Txsleuth
I watched Laura in re-run last hour and watching Krauthammer on Fox right now. I thought Laura did a good job filling in for Bill, much better than John Kasic has done lately -- he seems to have jumped the shark for some reason.

BTW I switched to Joe's show while I was feeding my dogs tonight and Rita Cosby was filling in... the subject: Oprah should run for VP with Hillary. I almost lost my dinner.

2,329 posted on 07/21/2006 9:54:46 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: voiceinthewind

Thanks for finding and posting that...

Too bad for Steve...I know he hates it there.


2,330 posted on 07/21/2006 9:55:07 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: bray

since 570 AD or so.


2,331 posted on 07/21/2006 9:56:18 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Txsleuth

you're quite welcome ;o)


2,332 posted on 07/21/2006 9:56:23 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: conservativepoet

Yup, that's about the way I remember it.


2,333 posted on 07/21/2006 9:56:32 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: varmintxer

Any ideas on how they will overcome their problem with the AT-14 Kornet anti-tank missile?


2,334 posted on 07/21/2006 9:58:54 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: varmintxer

I only heard part of Yoni...I missed some.

I obviously missed the important part...but, I did hear him confront Hugh about Hugh discussing whether Israel should have the 1967 borders..

Did he also say something about the Bekaa Valley??


2,335 posted on 07/21/2006 9:59:01 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: bruinbirdman

I'm worried about the tunnels and underground bunkers and supplies. Should I be or not?


2,336 posted on 07/21/2006 9:59:49 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

FOX...more live video..but no movement yet.


2,337 posted on 07/21/2006 10:01:04 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Jeez louise...I would have lost my dinner if I had watched that...ugh.

MIKE TOBIN on now.


2,338 posted on 07/21/2006 10:01:06 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: conservativepoet

I don't remember that Yoni said anything about how that changes plans but I couldn't help but think it has had some impact.


2,339 posted on 07/21/2006 10:01:25 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: Txsleuth
Speaking of Bekaa Valley, Sleuth you reminded me I did finally hear an expert on TV sometime during the day who said waht I have been surmising all week.

It is the Bekaa Saddams WMD's were moved to and some experts are concerned Hezbollah may have their hands on some or all of what was moved to the region.

2,340 posted on 07/21/2006 10:01:26 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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