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O'BANNON: When the family fails, when the private sector fails to create jobs at a fast enough rate you find that people are unemployed and drift into needing help in order to exist and the welfare system was created in the '30's to do exactly that. When the private sector, essentially, failed we have the development of a welfare system, and it's not corrupting society, it is taking what society _ institutions have left behind: The family breaking up, the economy not expanding fast enough, the health system failing, the educational system not doing its job. We have untrained, unskilled people looking for jobs in a highly technical society or jobs that pay so low that people cannot in fact live at a decent level of humanity. I see the welfare system not corrupting, but in fact taking the remains and attempting to help people live in dignity.

Again, the mantra of modern Liberalism - It's America's fault. These people on welfare are victims. We have a duty to provide for them however long.

Give me a break. Modern Liberalism essentially has created a class of people who hard-working tax payers pay to stay home, who are subsidized for life. There is no incentive for these people to better their lot, to work, to provide for their families when the system takes care of their every need.

Where does the gov'ts responsiblity end and personal responsibility take over. I was under the belief that the US had defeated Communism.