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Judge tells woman leave or be deported
United Press International ^ | July 20, 2006 | UPI

Posted on 07/20/2006 12:44:13 PM PDT by PDR

LOS ANGELES, July 20 (UPI) -- A judge in Los Angeles is under investigation for telling an illegal immigrant to leave his courtroom or face deportation.

Aurora Gonzalez was seeking a restraining order against her husband, claiming that Francisco Salgado was "verbally and emotionally abusive" to her and their sons. She also said that Salgado threatened to report her to immigration authorities.

Judge Pro Tem Bruce Fink asked Gonzalez if she was an illegal immigrant. When she acknowledged she was, the judge told her he wanted her out of the courtroom by the time he counted to 20.

Fink, an experienced lawyer specializing in family law, defended his action, saying he believed that the couple had just had a spat and did not really want to separate. He said that granting Gonzalez a restraining order would have also ended her husband's efforts to get her legal status -- "We'd wind up with exactly the opposite of what these people wanted."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; judges; marriage

1 posted on 07/20/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by PDR
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To: PDR
"We'd wind up with exactly the opposite of what these people wanted."

How about what CALIFORNIA citizens want (deportation of illegal aliens)? We're the ones paying the bills, but who is listening to what we want?

2 posted on 07/20/2006 12:47:53 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: PDR

Bad link, this one works:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060720-023023-6356r

Where in the article does the Judge tell her she will be deported? I hate the press. Is it a good thing he told her to leave? Sounds like she got away from being deported.


3 posted on 07/20/2006 12:49:20 PM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: PDR

Assume that the lady admitted that she was the armed robber who robbed the local bank yesterday! Would the judge have her arrested? Or would he count to 20 so that she can disappear? What part of 'illegal' doesn't this judge understand???????


4 posted on 07/20/2006 12:55:22 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: eeriegeno; All

From another source:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-illegal20jul20,0,5891326.story?coll=la-home-headlines

In last Friday's hearing in Pomona, Fink asked Gonzalez if she was in fact an illegal immigrant.

"I'm illegal," she said.

"I hate the immigration laws that we have," the judge responded, according to the court transcript, "but I think the bailiff could take you to the immigration services and send you to Mexico. Is that what you guys want?"

Fink then asked Salgado if he wanted his wife deported. Salgado replied he was helping his wife get her legal papers, according to the transcript.

"But she's an illegal alien, right?" Fink said. "She has no right to be here at this point, correct?

"Yes," Salgado said.

At that point, Fink warned Gonzalez to either leave his courtroom or risk arrest.

"I'm going to count to 20, and if you people have left this courtroom and disappeared, she isn't going to Mexico forthwith," Fink said, according to the court transcript. "One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. When I get to 20, she gets arrested and goes to Mexico."

After Gonzalez left the courtroom, Fink asked Salgado if he wanted to stay, and he said yes.

Fink then dismissed the case: "Well, she brought the proceedings, and if she's not here to go forward, I guess all of the requests are denied."

On Wednesday, Fink, who has been a family law attorney for 35 years, insisted he was seeking what he thought was an agreeable solution for both parties.

"What I saw was nothing more than some yelling and screaming between a husband and wife," he said.

"I also saw that they really didn't want to not be together anymore."

If he had issued the restraining order, Fink said, "we'd wind up with exactly the opposite of what these people wanted."

"The cure could be far worse than the illness," he said.


5 posted on 07/20/2006 12:57:52 PM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: PDR

Kinda makes you wonder how a person ilegally in mexico wouldbe treated if they had the gall to go to a Mexican court because her husband was verbally abusive.


6 posted on 07/20/2006 1:09:51 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: PDR

The US is an amazing place --you openly tell a US judge in a US courtroom that you're an illegal alien and HE, THE JUDGE gets investigated!


7 posted on 07/20/2006 1:13:23 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
"When she acknowledged she was, the judge told her he wanted her out of the courtroom by the time he counted to 20." I would have only given her 19.
8 posted on 07/20/2006 1:45:06 PM PDT by xpertskir (I hate hippies but love hippie music)
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To: xpertskir

Should have given her to 3


9 posted on 07/20/2006 1:47:59 PM PDT by exdem2000
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To: gaijin

He should be investigated...he openly aided and abbetted a criminal IN COURT...


10 posted on 07/20/2006 1:49:31 PM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: PDR
ooh, and how would this fancy piece of paper protect her anyway even if she was illegal or legal.. must be Kevlar parchment...
11 posted on 07/20/2006 2:30:13 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: PDR

And don't let the (nonexistent border) door hit you on your way out!


12 posted on 07/20/2006 2:32:56 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: PDR

Just another example of illegal alieans wasting taxpayer dollars.


13 posted on 07/20/2006 2:37:05 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: gaijin
"The US is an amazing place --you openly tell a US judge in a US courtroom that you're an illegal alien and HE, THE JUDGE gets investigated!"

I guess the reason HE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED, is that his job is to enforce the law, not pick and choose. If he wants to change the law, let him join one of the other branches. This is why we have some of the problems we have, too many boobs in black robes thinking that the people are there to serve them instead of being there to serve the people. If we tried to impeach more of these clowns, it might strike some of them with common sense.
14 posted on 07/20/2006 2:53:49 PM PDT by a02001
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I guess the reason HE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED, is that his job is to enforce the law,

No no.. cops enforce the law... judges decide cases brought by prosecutors. That is Judges decide what is or is not the law.

You haven't figured it out have you? We are a nation of laws and not men ... but the law is whatever the judge says it is.

15 posted on 07/20/2006 4:02:04 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Crim

He should be impeached if the charges are true. Judges do not serve life terms, they serve during "good behavior." If aiding a criminal in court isn't bad behavior then what is?


16 posted on 07/21/2006 4:25:42 AM PDT by old republic
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