Shikha Dalmia
1 posted on
07/19/2006 1:33:12 PM PDT by
Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
It is amazing what a little research and common sense will do isn't it?
2 posted on
07/19/2006 1:38:12 PM PDT by
vpintheak
(All other ground is sinking sand.)
To: Uncledave
I love her article and I think I love her...
To: Uncledave
Great writer and beautiful to boot!
To: Uncledave
.....just doin my part for the environment.....
.....(LOL).....
5 posted on
07/19/2006 1:42:19 PM PDT by
cyberaxe
(((.....does this mean I'm kewl now?.....)))
To: Uncledave
But the biggest reason why a Hummer's energy use is so low is that it shares many components with other vehicles and therefore its design and development energy costs are spread across many cars. It is not possible to do this with a specialty product like hybrid.
This is somewhat bogus logic. It implies that if nearly all cars were hybrids, they be the cheapest ones and Hummers would be "speciality".
We can't avoid adotping new things simply because they are not common yet!
I AM NO FAN OF HYBRIDS....just commenting on her logic.
6 posted on
07/19/2006 1:45:25 PM PDT by
Onelifetogive
(Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
To: Uncledave
Gotta love it. Put a bumper sticker on that Hummer, too.
"This vehicle powered by organic fuel"
Crude oil is an organic substance, isn't it?
7 posted on
07/19/2006 1:46:53 PM PDT by
watchin
(Facts irritate liberals)
To: Uncledave
To: Uncledave
Wow, ten posts and no "hummer" comment regarding her picture.
To: Uncledave
I love hummers, both kinds.
13 posted on
07/19/2006 1:49:23 PM PDT by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: Uncledave
Phhhhhdddttttt Bill Ford! You guys build more humungous hippo vehicles than anybody.
14 posted on
07/19/2006 1:49:43 PM PDT by
RoadTest
(Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: in God is our trust.)
To: Uncledave
mega-million dollar ad campaign Hmmmmm.....
Do we really believe that Ford was planning to spend $1 trillion on an ad campaign?
Gotta love those media types who think words like "mega" are nothing more than meaningless superlatives....
15 posted on
07/19/2006 1:50:45 PM PDT by
r9etb
To: Uncledave
16 posted on
07/19/2006 1:51:58 PM PDT by
lormand
(Kill terrorists on the battlefield)
To: All
Frankly, I don't care what she thinks. Hummers s*ck!
20 posted on
07/19/2006 1:54:39 PM PDT by
newgeezer
("Hezbollah" is deceptive. The accurate translation is "Hezb'Allah"; it means 'party of Allah')
To: Uncledave
I have no desire to buy a hybrid but this is some pretty tortured logic. A Hummer is expensive to buy, expensive to operate, and, a fact that I don't see in here, has the highest rate of repairs per 100 vehicles of ANY make sold in the U.S. It's hard to imagine one going 300,000 miles without a whole lot of repair shop time.
22 posted on
07/19/2006 2:00:01 PM PDT by
Gone GF
To: Uncledave
I'm having problems with these numbers. If the Prius costs $3.25 / mile for a 100,000 mile life, that means the total cost is $325,000. If gas is at $3/gallon for 40 mile/gal, that's $7,500 of gas in a lifetime leaving $317,500 in non-gasoline costs. Assuming the car is made of pure energy (absolutely nothing in it can be attributed to a non-energy cost) and costs $25,000 (might be a little high) you're left with $292,500 of energy costs not associated with manufacture or use. Some is for disposal. Some is for the energy to make repair and maintenance parts. But there is no way in the world you can say that those add up to over $290k. I rank this with proving you can flap your arms and fly around the room with a little math. The numbers don't add up.
(after a quick look at the report, it looks like most of that cost is for the disposal of the car. I have my doubts.)
25 posted on
07/19/2006 2:05:52 PM PDT by
KarlInOhio
(Loose lips sink ships - and the New York Times really doesn't have a problem with sinking ships.)
To: Uncledave
Now here's a catchy slogan for the next Save the Earth campaign: Have you hugged a Hummer today? I appreciate the research on the Hummer. I've seriously been thinking about buying a Hummer II. This is good information to know. My Explorer already irritates the heck out of the Environ_MENTAL_ wackos, but it gives me chills just thinking about how upset they will get when they see me driving a Hummer. LOL
27 posted on
07/19/2006 2:07:44 PM PDT by
NRA2BFree
(NEVER ARGUE WITH IDIOTS!!! THEY*LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE!!!!)
To: Uncledave
This article will cause the environmentalists to jump like a frenchman.
To: Uncledave
Never mind that at the time Ford was losing $2,000 to $3,000 for every hybrid it sold because consumers won't pay the entire $6,000 She lost her credibility right there. Ford makes one hybrid model, and it's an SUV. The price premium is $3,000 over a comparably equipped gas-only model. And, Ford doesn't have to sell them at a loss because they can't keep them in stock.
30 posted on
07/19/2006 2:20:04 PM PDT by
Doohickey
(I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
To: Uncledave
Several problems with the logic of this article have already been pointed out up-thread.
It should also be pointed out that what we are short of is not energy, it's petroleum. Any energy requirements that can be met from nuclear, coal, solar or hydro should be deleted from both sides of the comparison.
Look, anyone who can afford one is welcome to buy a Hummer as far as I'm concerned.
But don't insult my intelligence by claiming they are an energy efficient means of transport....unless you routinely load yours to full capacity and run them off-road.
To: Uncledave
Hybrids have been in use in the US since 1918. The first application was the diesel electric locomotive.
Early diesel-electrics were switching engines used to move rail cars around in rail yards. The first went into service in 1918 with the Jay Street Connecting Railroad.
No new ideas, just revamped old ideas...
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