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Chicago inquiry finds police tortured blacks
MSNBC.com ^
| July/19/2006
| THE AP
Posted on 07/19/2006 12:58:57 PM PDT by screw boll
CHICAGO - Special prosecutors investigating allegations that police tortured nearly 150 black suspects in the 1970s and 80s said Wednesday they found evidence of abuse, but any crimes are now too old to prosecute.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 30yearsago; blacks; decadesinthepast; donutwatch; leo; whybringitupnow
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News: My grand parents were tortured in the 40s during the Holocaust. I mean, why now with this news? Why was their an inquiry for old stuff?
To: screw boll
It matters when US citizens are tortured. Maybe civil lawsuits are in order.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:00:31 PM PDT
by
zarf
To: screw boll
My grand parents were tortured in the 40s during the Holocaust. As with any crime committed under the color of law it should always be "inquired" and prosecuted. Something about history repeating itself was mentioned by some scholar once.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:03:20 PM PDT
by
beltfed308
(Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
To: zarf
the report says, the "crimes are now too old to prosecute." Does this apply for civil stuff?
To: screw boll; zarf
Allegations that 148 were "tortured" - but actual evidence that 3 people
may have been mistreated in one specific precinct.
Usual spin.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:05:14 PM PDT
by
wideawake
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: screw boll
The Romans crucified Christ and Columbus enslaved the indigenous peoples of Hispaniola. This is ancient history.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:07:39 PM PDT
by
Brad from Tennessee
(Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
To: screw boll
Wow, Chicago's budget must have a huge surplus of money to fund such an "inquiry."
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To: screw boll
It plays into the Dems fall campaign to keep blacks on the reservation. They must see that they are victims over and over. It's the only way to insure their votes.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:08:53 PM PDT
by
kjo
To: beltfed308
"Something about history repeating itself was mentioned by some scholar once."
Slapping Jews in police stations was the norm even before the WWI era. I hope you are not putting slapping in a stition side by side to the Holocaust.
Besides, I am not trying to campar or contrast. I am only wondering why the news now? If the AP needs old news, let them report on the 40's, why only the 70s?
Sarcastically speaking
To: Brad from Tennessee
Oh gee I thought maybe they were talking about the pieces of excrement who nearly beat to death that poor kid the other day. No such luck.
Well, i do not condone this but let's hope some of the guys who got hurt really deserved it. Maybe it prevented them from preventing more crimes.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:10:19 PM PDT
by
TNCMAXQ
To: TNCMAXQ
"guys who got hurt really deserved it. Maybe it prevented them from preventing more crimes."
Maybe, but it is not up to a cop to decide. We have a court system for a reason.
To: screw boll
The 70's and 80's? Why is this an issue now? Could it be because relevant witnesses are long gone and a claim for money can be made? This is looking more and more a case where the statutes of limitations should definitely apply!
To: Continental Soldier
When Minority stuff are involved, Carmon sense goes out the window.
To: screw boll
How long do Republicans let Dem-controlled cities like Chicago, Detroit, and New Orleans go down the crapper before they try to step in and fix it?
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:16:46 PM PDT
by
BaBaStooey
(I heart Emma Caulfield.)
To: beltfed308
Reading the article, a clearer picture merges.
The spin: In the 1970s and 1980s the Chicago Police Department was thoroughly racist organziation that routinely tortured black men for fun and it was ignored.
The reality: while many felons are claiming that they were mistreated by the police (imagine that! a felon claiming the police abused him), the only hard evidence leads back to one precinct and one culprit: Lieutenant Jon Burge.
The context: Burge apparently snapped when two of his fellow officers were killed and brutalized a suspect named Andrew Wilson.
The result: Burge was fired after an internal investigation.
In other words, big effin deal.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:19:29 PM PDT
by
wideawake
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
To: BaBaStooey
"How long do Republicans let Dem-controlled cities like Chicago, Detroit, and New Orleans go down the crapper before they try to step in and fix it?"
Good point. local democrats destroy our great cities, and than the DNC people come and blame national Republicans for it.
To: screw boll
But....but......I thought Northerners were more "enlightened" than those Southern bigots.
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:23:29 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: ManningMillworks
It is not quite the same thing. We have agreed through our representatives to taxation and all that goes with it. The law has been obeyed and due process afforded. (Note to self: A Conservative is a Liberal who has been audited.)
The beating of people is outside the law except under very limited circumstances. None of which this fits.
When a government based on the people makes a mistake, it has a duty to inform its citizens and take the punishment they mete out if they decide to hold the government responsible.
Monarchs, who rule by the Grace of God, have no such obligations. Tyrants, who rule through violence, certainly have no such obligation,
But if we are serious about government being derived from the people then Chicago has an obligation to confess.
It may be "ancient" history, but if the workers in the city government broke the law, we cannot allow the city to be quiet about it or we have forfeited part of our claim to being masters of our government.
McVey
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posted on
07/19/2006 1:24:37 PM PDT
by
mcvey
(Fight on. Do not give up. Ally with those you must. Defeat those you can. And fight on whatever.)
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