Posted on 07/19/2006 11:48:41 AM PDT by neverdem
Belief in ESCR is a religious belief. You must have a great deal of faith!
Once again Fumento nails it.
Their willful blindness to Dr. Hwang's fraud, as well as the probably fraud of many of his American associates and partners, suggests the editors of Science might be into this deeper than I can imagine.
"Follow the money" bump
This is all about abortion. The abortion industry is feeling the heat and is trying to make a USE for the PRODUCT of an abortion to make it more acceptable.
If ESC are such a great deal, and they may well be, then private research efforts, as well as European research efforts, will bear fruit and they can crow all they want about it.
"If ESC are such a great deal, and they may well be, then private research efforts, as well as European research efforts, will bear fruit and they can crow all they want about it."
With private research they have induced stem cells to grow into heart cells/liver cells/kidney cells, even neurons...
One can be against it on moral grounds but to suggest that there is nothing to be gained by having cells that could be induced to grow into any type of body tissue has no scientific value is just wrong.
The question is can adult stem cells or cold-blood stem cells do the same thing? That I don't know, but "blank" cells that can be caused to grow into neurons could repair a severed spinal column.
With all the crap the federal government funds, they won't fund this....I do not support this veto.
We could say that a bowl of pasta has the potential to cure thousands of ailments too.
"We could say that a bowl of pasta has the potential to cure thousands of ailments too."
It does. I always feel good after a bowl of pasta.
Ethical Alternatives - Keeping a focus on ethics in medical research.
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Primitive Adult Stem Cells Found in Peripheral Blood
"Moraga Biotechnology Corporation, an adult stem cell company based in Los Angeles, California, announces the discovery of its proprietary Blastomere-Like Stem Cells (BLSCs) circulating in the peripheral blood of mammals. The Company's scientists found that these adult stem cells were able to differentiate into most tissues and organs of the body."
Enter stem cells not embryonic stem cells into PubMed and see for yourself. You might want to start with "Review" articles. 8^)
I never can stand listening to them whining about the horror of throwing out a frozen embryo even though there have been 30 million aborted fetuses they don't cry real tears over...until they consider the lost voters they coulda had...
I agree. I really dont have a dog in this fight. If it was up to me, I'd sign the bill, but I understand the Presidents opposition to it, and I hold nothing against him for that, in fact I respect him for it.
Sadly, this is far more than just about abortion ... the societal engineers of the left (and apparently over populating Science) have as a parallel goal in this demand for ESCs a major smack down for conservative CHRISTIAN values. They prove their agenda every time they spit and fume that Bush is forcing his values upon the nation by not spending taxpayers' money on this research. Those who have taken the role of god in their lives (pride in its deadliest form) are quick to spit upon anything that gives an affirmation of godly values. This entire issue is very much about spitting at the exercise of faith in Christian values, very much about haughty condescension toward people of faith. That embryo aged humans will be cannibalized is little or no import to such servants of the most low ... they are as god, 'knowing right and wrong'. And woe be unto any diety getting in their way ...
You offered (quite deceptively), "With private research they have induced stem cells to grow into heart cells/liver cells/kidney cells, even neurons..." Just to rebuke you for your purposeful deceit (or perhaps you really are so ill informed that you don't know the difference), post the research facts which prove these stem cells were embryo derived. The truth is, none of the research you're touting was derived from embryonic stem cells and all have been the result of harvesting adult stem cells and using them.
Fumento is always spot-on. His web site rocks, too.
I never thought I would see my country welcome and celebrate declining to lead the world in any endeavor.
I only hope it stops before we start to look like Afghanistan.
On the other hand, if the message was something on the order of "the federal government is not authorized to engage in these matters", I would be happy.
But sadly, it is not.
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