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To: 68skylark
The Osprey is a fine example of the Marine/Navy problem. They take the aspects that make them great soldiers into the weapons procurement arena. It is a bad mix. They will fight to the death for their weapon systems that are fundamentally unsound. There are many reasons for this but it is usually pretty obvious when it happens. The Osprey will have to be built in large numbers and fail in combat, taking hundreds or perhaps thousands of grunts lives, before being "replaced". If everyone is lucky then they will substitute it with a system that works, what will probably happen is that they will "decide" to upgrade the existing "fundamentally unsound" system.
10 posted on 07/19/2006 12:08:05 PM PDT by grapeape (I like to make myslef feal superoir by pointing out peples spelin erer's and thpos)
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To: grapeape
All Airworthiness certificates are written in blood going back to Wilbur and Orville Wright...
The first ever air passenger was KILLED.....
Ever tally up how many people have been killed in Helo"s?.
In the 50-60 airliners were falling out of the skies every where.
Where would we be if we had "Cut and Run' on aviation back then??????
12 posted on 07/19/2006 12:32:34 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: grapeape
They will fight to the death for their weapon systems that are fundamentally unsound.

That's what liberals say about all new military technologies -- "fundamentally unsound". They confuse what is capable in theory with what has been implemented in practice, and never give the engineers the time to work out the problems.

The Osprey design is a very old and very well-known engineering problem that many have failed to solve. In theory, the engineering problem can be solved and doing so would have huge military advantages, and the DoD has the patience and money to see that it actually does get solved. That the Osprey works at all is a testament to the engineers who were able to solve a number of longstanding theoretical problems surrounding those types of designs.

This is no different than ABM systems and hyperkinetic rocket motors. People dismiss them because they are buggy and unreliable for decades, but once the systems finally come together people wonder how our military functioned without them. Difficult engineering rarely works perfectly out of the box, and some problems will never be discovered until put into use, something true of just about everything.

39 posted on 07/19/2006 4:48:31 PM PDT by tortoise
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