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Dobbs: Not so smart when it comes to the Middle East (Barf Alert)
CNN ^ | July 19, 2006 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 07/19/2006 11:11:48 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

NEW YORK (CNN) -- We Americans like to think we're a pretty smart people, even when evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. And nowhere is that evidence more overwhelming than in the Middle East. History in the Middle East is everything, and we Americans seem to learn nothing from it.

President Harry Truman took about 20 minutes to recognize the state of Israel when it declared independence in 1948. Since then, more than 58 years of war, terrorism and blood-letting have led to the events of the past week.

Even now, as Katyusha rockets rain down on northern Israel and Israeli fighter jets blast Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon, we simultaneously decry radical Islamist terrorism and Israel's lack of restraint in defending itself.

And the U.S. government, which wants no part of a cease-fire until Israel is given every opportunity to rescue its kidnapped soldiers and destroy as many Hezbollah and Hezbollah armaments as possible, urges caution in the interest of preserving a nascent and fragile democratic government in Lebanon. Could we be more conflicted?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: anotherduplicate; iraq; loudobbs; middleeast
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I'm still trying to figure out what his point is.
1 posted on 07/19/2006 11:11:50 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia


What's up with Lou...he's been ranting incoherently (perhaps no different than ever) on issues lately.

Lou's been heavy on rhetoric and short on the facts and logic...but what else can you expect from CNN?

Just one look at CNN's web page and you'll figure out how anti-Israel, anti-US, the fiends at CNN are.


2 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:02 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
My guess is: 1) We were wrong for recognizing Israel to begin with because its existence has caused 58 years of violence; 2) We whine about both Hezbollah's attacks on Israel and Israel's then lack of restraint; 3) We call for caution while displaying disinterest in a cease fire which would (supposedly) help Lebanon's fledgling government (??).

In effect he's saying America was wrong to begin with and now is duplicitous in its dealings with the middle East. I couldn't agree less, (about Lou Dobbs or his opinions) but that's another matter.
3 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:17 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Among his paranoid and fevered ramblings last night, Michael Savage coined a great label for CNN-"Crescent News Network"


4 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:20 AM PDT by Carl LaFong ("I not only denies the allegations,I resents the allegator" - George Stevens)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"President Harry Truman took about 20 minutes to recognize the state of Israel when it declared independence in 1948. Since then, more than 58 years of war, terrorism and blood-letting have led to the events of the past week". - Lou Dobbs

During the Civil War a Catholic historian, whose name eludes me right now, endeavored to uncover the various time periods when peace existed on earth for all of mankind, since man first began recording events. After his exhaustive research he discovered that man has enjoyed roughly 25 years of total world peace during the past 5,000 years or so. Lou Dobbs and his ilk live in a fantasyland while the rest of the world are about the task of dealing with reality.

5 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:35 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

His point is that it would have been better if Hitler finished the job. What an ass.


6 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:48 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Jim Robinson

This article, and many comments about it, are already posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668603/posts


7 posted on 07/19/2006 11:29:19 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
President Harry Truman took about 20 minutes to recognize the state of Israel when it declared independence in 1948.

This says it all for me ... the fact that Israel even exists seems to be a bothersome and regrettable fact to the esteemed Mr. Dobbs.

8 posted on 07/19/2006 11:34:28 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: TheCrusader

Was that the 25 years or so before Adam ate the apple?


9 posted on 07/19/2006 11:36:46 AM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Dobbs says one thing that is right on the mark though:

That has been sufficient bloodshed for United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to join in the call for an international security force, ignoring the fact that a U.N. force is already in Southern Lebanon, having failed to secure the border against Hezbollah's incursions and attacks and the murder and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.

10 posted on 07/19/2006 11:39:47 AM PDT by KenHorse
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
President Harry Truman took about 20 minutes to recognize the state of Israel when it declared independence in 1948. Since then, more than 58 years of war, terrorism and blood-letting have led to the events of the past week.

The implication is clear. Dobbs thinks Israel shouldn't exist.

11 posted on 07/19/2006 11:43:44 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

Another "America the Pristine"r (anti-trade, anti-immigrants) goes over the edge of his flat world.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 11:49:57 AM PDT by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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To: montomike
"Was that the 25 years or so before Adam ate the apple?"

hahahaha, - I forget, but I wouldn't doubt it.

13 posted on 07/19/2006 11:54:22 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: kenavi

I've been wondering if Mr. Dobbs is angling for the anchor's chair. But he seems to be going about it in a rather odd way.


14 posted on 07/19/2006 11:54:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Dobbs is one of CNN's most strident Bush haters, I feel a bit of shame agreeing with much of his illegal immigration agenda.
15 posted on 07/19/2006 11:56:50 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Meant to address my no. 12 to you also.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 12:24:22 PM PDT by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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To: TheCrusader; montomike
...the various time periods when peace existed on earth...

Depends on what we're talking about.   "Peace" used to mean lack of total international violent war.   That ended in 1945.  Someone could say it means any overt active war between nations and that gets silly  ---almost like saying any violence anywhere is war.

We need to be grateful and acknowledge the fact that we're blessed with peace.

17 posted on 07/19/2006 12:39:36 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
"We need to be grateful and acknowledge the fact that we're blessed with peace."

Depends on who you mean by "we". Most of this world lives either in war or under the threat of war, thanks to the islamic dogs out there.

If you live in Africa you aer either in war or concerned about it. If you are a Christian living in Idnonesia or a Hindu living in India you are living in constant fear of terror attacks. If you're in the middle east you are also at war, or living under the fear of it coming your way soon.

In the rest of the world there is a false 'peace', with hatreds seething and boiling underneath, just waiting to explode in various forms. Yes, I am grateful for the relative 'peace' our homeland enjoys today, but our nation is at war too, with an invisible enemy who is perpetually seeking to bring bloodshed to our streets. There are wars erupting all over this world, and I don't see that as a sign of any true 'peace'.

18 posted on 07/19/2006 12:50:50 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: kenavi
I read as much of his screed as I could stomach but it looks to me as if he's towing the old anti-American line that the Arabs are the victims here because they're so poor and have so little and if we'd only give more to them and less to Israel, the ME would be all peace and harmony.

I couldn't get much further in the article so I wonder if he ever stated that peace could be achieved if Israel would withdraw to the pre-1967 war borders.

Lou's as misinformed about this conflict as he is about outsourcing and free-trade.

19 posted on 07/19/2006 1:03:55 PM PDT by Mase
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To: TheCrusader
Most of this world lives either in war or under the threat of war, thanks to the islamic dogs out there...

Whether that particular statement is verifiable or not, if you're really into that sort of thing you can at least be certain of the fact that you're going to die (probably alone) as so will everyone you know.

Oh yeah, also the sun's going to explode and destroy all forms of life in the solar system.

Enjoy.

20 posted on 07/19/2006 2:04:21 PM PDT by expat_panama
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