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CA: GOP moderates: lost hope (Hanky Alert!)
Ventura Star ^ | 7/19/06 | Tim Herdt

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:11:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 07/19/2006 9:11:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

et tu aRnold? (gasp)


2 posted on 07/19/2006 9:12:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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Oh please raise my taxes and let illegals take over my state Mr. Rino!!!


3 posted on 07/19/2006 9:13:30 AM PDT by samadams2000
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To: NormsRevenge
But Richman made clear he was very disappointed that Schwarzenegger did not endorse him, and said the governor lost an opportunity to potentially reshape the party and help bring it closer to parity philosophy with Democrats.
4 posted on 07/19/2006 9:16:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge

As it is, conservatives again rule the Republican slate: Richard Mountjoy for U.S. Senate, Tom McClintock for lieutenant governor, Chuck Poochigian for attorney general, Tony Strickland for controller, Claude Parrish for treasurer.

Thank goodness. Maybe we can get this state out of the tax and spend, illegal immigrant hellhole it has become thanks to the Democrats and RINOS.


5 posted on 07/19/2006 9:26:31 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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>>>>"Our governor cares about one thing only, and that's Arnold Schwarzenegger," Maldonado told the Times.
Maldonado later apologized.

Never apologize, especially when you're RIGHT!

6 posted on 07/19/2006 9:27:33 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: NormsRevenge
was their kind of Republican: supportive of abortion rights, receptive to gay-rights issues, tough-minded on taxes, sensitive to the environment, friendly to business and corporate interests.

This is a BS description of moderate republicans.

Moderate republicans are ambivalent about abortion, are against gay marriage but otherwise have a live and let live attitude, want honest govt., are luke warm on tax cuts, REALLY WANT LAW AND ORDER AND LOW CRIME, good roads, good public schools, good public colleges, clean enviroment but with some common sense, are christian but like to keep that to themselves, want manners and decent language, mostly want to be left alone, are for fewer illegals, want to work at a decent job, are ambivalent about gun control.

They are people you would like to have as neighbors, but not all that politically active.

7 posted on 07/19/2006 9:28:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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"Our governor cares about one thing only, and that's Arnold Schwarzenegger," Maldonado told the Times.

Maldonado later apologized."


Just like a true "moderate".


8 posted on 07/19/2006 9:28:50 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: bordergal

Your comment about rinos is out of line.

rinos just want to have a decent life for them and their kids and are practical and not ideological and what the hell is wrong with that.


9 posted on 07/19/2006 9:29:59 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
rinos just want to have a decent life for them and their kids and are practical and not ideological and what the hell is wrong with that.

Because it doesn't work. Social liberalism creates the demand for the welfare state. Social liberalism destroys families and therefore breeds crime and dependency. To claim to be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative is to ask "other people" to deal with the costs.

10 posted on 07/19/2006 9:40:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: staytrue
RINOs are Democrats who pretend to have a few Republican leanings to attract more votes. The lukewarm attitude toward tax cuts and ambivalence to gun control guarantee that I would NEVER vote for them. They are not the kind of people I want to see in office at all. Being a moderate demonstrates a lack of character and principles.
11 posted on 07/19/2006 9:40:44 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: bordergal

Mountjoy will lose big (even he knows this), Poochigan will probably lose, but McClintock is a very viable candidate.

What are Claude Parrish's chances?


12 posted on 07/19/2006 9:46:44 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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"There are a lot of people who've worked hard to make this party a bigger tent," he said. "The governor was in a position to advance that effort, but he just hasn't done it."

The moderates aren't about making a bigger tent. They are about pitching the tent in a new spot and leaving the old base out in the cold.

13 posted on 07/19/2006 9:52:40 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: NormsRevenge
reshape a state party whose candidates had lost 17 of the previous 19 statewide elections.

With such staunch right-wingers on the ballot as Gary Mendoza, Ruben Barrales, Tom Campbell etc. etc.?

Once again their nice theoy is full of holes. We nominate RINOs all the time and they always do far worse than conservatives.

14 posted on 07/19/2006 10:00:41 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: LexBaird

The GUb has openly stated that "It is not my job to grow the California Republican party",, make of that what you will.

Many long time conservatives in the base see thru the charade that unfolded the last few years in the CA GOP.

We may be sunk for 4 more years, but at least the moderate hemorrhage may be curtailed (tho the runaway spending is another thing) until 2010 if the pressure is kept is kept on and enough seats in the state Assembly and Senate stay GOP and conservative.


15 posted on 07/19/2006 10:03:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: staytrue; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge
Moderate republicans are ambivalent about abortion, are against gay marriage....are luke warm on tax cuts

You don't know the same "moderate" Republicans I do, and unfortunately I know a lot of them. In fact they are as extremist on abortion as the Democrats. They think gay marriage is just fine when you talk to them, but won't say it in public.

As for taxes and fiscal concerns I have it from the horse's mouth from ARNOLD's campaign strategists this past Wednesday that he is taking heat from the New Majority folks in Orange County for NOT wanting to raise taxes. Yes, these are the folks who call themselves FISCAL CONSERVATIVES.

There is nothing moderate about them. They are liberals, period.

16 posted on 07/19/2006 10:06:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: bordergal

You can take Claude off that list.


17 posted on 07/19/2006 10:07:28 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: staytrue
They are people you would like to have as neighbors, but not all that politically active.

If they are as you describe, I wouldn't want them as neighbors. You described a person who doesn't care one way or the other about infanticide, self defense, or governmental control of large parts of his income. The rest of your description fits someone who is self absorbed about personal needs and wants, but totally out of touch about what the government is actually doing to address them.

His indifference and disengaged attitude is what lets the RINOs operate with impunity, because he either doesn't care or never bothers too look at what the guys he votes for are actually doing. He, and his disengaged Dem opposite, is the reason that incumbents can redline out safe districts and make a career out of sucking public teat.

18 posted on 07/19/2006 10:11:39 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: ElkGroveDan; FairOpinion
...he is taking heat from the New Majority folks in Orange County for NOT wanting to raise taxes.

Good for Arnold!

19 posted on 07/19/2006 10:29:23 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's so, so sad!


20 posted on 07/19/2006 10:31:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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