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To: Atlantic Bridge
"...Richard "Dick" Ira Bong was for sure a outstanding pilot. But - his 45 kills aren't that impressive to Europeans where we had pilots that shot down 300 and more enemy planes....."

ROTFLMAO! I had to copy your text here to send to some people who I think would enjoy that comment from a German!

Ah...if only that BS History COULD be rewritten...:)

Makes me wonder what WOULD be impressive to "Europeans"?

62 posted on 07/22/2006 9:16:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: rlmorel
Ease of manufacture. That is why the US won WWII - the germans had better tanks, better planes, better rifles, etc. But they had no idea how to design an assembly process that was quick.

Deshalb haben sie den Krieg verloren.

63 posted on 07/22/2006 9:31:10 PM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: rlmorel

Impressive to Europeans:

Erich Hartmann with 353 kills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann

or Gerhard Barkhorn with 302 kills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Barkhorn

or Heinz Bär with 220 kills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_B%C3%A4r

not to speak about Hans-Ulrich Rudel who flew some 2,530 combat missions (a world record), during which he destroyed almost 2,000 ground targets (among them 519 tanks, 70 assault craft/landing boats, 150 self-propelled guns, 4 armoured trains and 800 other vehicles; as well as 9 planes (2 IL-2's and 7 fighters)). He also sank a battleship, two cruisers and a destroyer. He was shot down or force-landed 32 times (several times behind enemy lines), always somehow managing to escape capture despite Stalin himself putting a 100,000 rouble bounty on his head. He was also wounded five times and rescued six stranded aircrew from enemy territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rudel

That is indeed impressive although Rudel was -from the political view- a complete a**hole.

Besides of that - I never said that I want to rewrite history. I even denied it in this thread. Just read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668443/posts?page=47#47

P.S. I also said that Americans never had the chance to equal scores since they usually were not that long in direct combat service compared to the Germans or the Japanese.


65 posted on 07/22/2006 9:56:49 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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