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F-35 Versus European Competition
Strategy Page ^ | 14 jun 06 | Anon

Posted on 07/19/2006 7:10:06 AM PDT by white trash redneck

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Nice to see we won't be relinquishing control of the air anytime soon.
1 posted on 07/19/2006 7:10:08 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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Even with all the technology - it still comes down to the training and guts of the guy behind the wheel or gun...and I am not too impressed by the Europeans...


2 posted on 07/19/2006 7:13:48 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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My take is that the F-22 is #1, the F-35 #2 in air dominance.


3 posted on 07/19/2006 7:14:34 AM PDT by lormand (What do you call a "Conservative" who hates Rush Limbaugh...a liberal.)
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The author sounds like he is worried that Europe won't be able to fend off U.S. air attacks.

"Oh my gosh...what will we do if the American's attack?!?!"

News flash, if we do attack Europe, it's because you're up to eyeballs in Islamic terrorists.


4 posted on 07/19/2006 7:15:45 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: 2banana

A bad weapon in the hands of a good soldier will always best a great weapon in the hands of a bad soldier.


5 posted on 07/19/2006 7:17:57 AM PDT by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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The F-22 is an air superiority fighter, the F-35 an attack fighter.

Two VERY different missions. . .


6 posted on 07/19/2006 7:18:33 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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Yes, but it sounds as if the F-35 is a better air dominance fighter than even the best the EUropeons have to offer, second only to the F-22.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 7:21:42 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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The advantage of the F-35 relative to the F-22 is: you can get maybe three F-35's for the price of an F-22, AND the F-35 is a multi-role aircraft. The F-22 is clearly an air-dominance aircraft. The F-35 is o.k. in that role, and is furthermore sufficiently effective in a broad range of missions. The comparison of the F-22 to the F-35 or the F-16 is kind of like the comparison of the B-2 to the F-35 or the F-16, or for that matter the A-10 to the F-16. I don't know if the F-35 will emerge as the best buy in the world as the mainstay of the air forces of most democratic nations of the world, the way the F-16 did, but it's looking like maybe it will.


8 posted on 07/19/2006 7:24:50 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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"The F-22 is an air superiority fighter, the F-35 an attack fighter."

"Two VERY different missions. . ."

Thanks for validating my point.

9 posted on 07/19/2006 7:26:33 AM PDT by lormand (What do you call a "Conservative" who hates Rush Limbaugh...a liberal.)
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To: white trash redneck

Now now, who posted this thread without any sexy pictures? C'mon now, people, you know that's against the rules. :D


10 posted on 07/19/2006 7:31:14 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Named after the original 'Lightning' jet fighter which still holds the world record for rate of climb at 50,000 feet per minute. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
11 posted on 07/19/2006 7:33:21 AM PDT by Vectorian
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'Yes, but it sounds as if the F-35 is a better air dominance fighter than even the best the EUropeons have to offer, second only to the F-22.'

The problem with your argument is that F35 is being jointly developed between the US and Britain with contibutions and orders from Italy, Holland, Turkey, Australia, Norway, Denmark, Canada, Israel and Singapore. So most EU countries will have their own aircraft and F35's!


12 posted on 07/19/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by Vectorian
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CRIPES!!!! 50K a MINUTE>?


13 posted on 07/19/2006 7:37:57 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Vectorian

named after the P-38 Lightning, the most effective long range attack fighter of WW2. ( by the way the F22 was originally going to be called the Lightning 2, but it was changed to raptor during the Jurassic Park craze.)


14 posted on 07/19/2006 7:38:29 AM PDT by Waverunner
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15 posted on 07/19/2006 7:39:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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16 posted on 07/19/2006 7:41:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Ohhhh baaaby... now that's more like it!

17 posted on 07/19/2006 7:43:04 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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'Even with all the technology - it still comes down to the training and guts of the guy behind the wheel or gun...and I am not too impressed by the Europeans...'

I presume you don't class Brits as Europeans as I don't - the USAF is pretty impressed with RAF pilots:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668391/posts


18 posted on 07/19/2006 7:43:23 AM PDT by Vectorian
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Lockheed P-38 "Lightning":

One of the last things Yammamoto ever saw ... The National Socialists weren't too fond of it, either.

19 posted on 07/19/2006 7:44:31 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lormand

It should be noted that the F-22 has the capability of carying a significant strike payload. This is not its primary mission but it is indeed a multi-role aircraft.


20 posted on 07/19/2006 7:45:02 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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