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To: bluefish
"You are actually expressing anger over the fact that others do not sit and take it when you pollute their air and stink up their clothes. Hmmm. I don't see my disdain for others dictation of what I expressly described as a non-fact (100 ft. from a smoker, and purposefully walking over to condemn smoking that in NO WAY was affecting them, their clothes, their airspace, etc.).

Now, what I do in an outdoor setting such as MY PROPERTY, where I could be within 50' of the neighbors' property, would give them the "right" to protest my smoking outdoors then?

The weak-kneed argument of "polluting my airspace" is without factual merit, and the anti-smoking zeal you display in your post is mis-guided.

I'll smoke on my property, and in public, and where proximity to offended parties is an issue (in a closed space, or within a legitimate near-distance), I will, as I always have, accommodate their request to refrain from blowing smoke on them.

I don't care who complains about my smoking, only that they use adult logic and adult consideration. Anything less than that (such as "victimhood" responses like yours), is not worth my time.

101 posted on 07/19/2006 7:44:10 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: traditional1
The weak-kneed argument of "polluting my airspace" is without factual merit,

Actually, it is.

I couldn't care less if you or anyone else smoke a carton a day. I really don't care. Enjoy.

But the nanosecond the first microbe of your smoke touches my airspace, you are out of bounds. It's that simple.

107 posted on 07/19/2006 7:48:15 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: traditional1

You know what? I STILL chew tobacco, sometimes nicotine gum and I even smoke occasionally. I'm a total nicotine addict, but I bristle at those who think their habit should be imposed on others.

Your reply is full of crap. You tried to turn the issue to "outside, on your property" when the comments that prompted your reply, and my retort, were with respect to smoke filling a hotel room through a ventilaton system.

Look at your own excerpt on your own cry-baby reply if you don't remember.

You expressly demonstrated that you don't care if your stinky smoke enters a hotel room via a ventilaton system, irritating those in the non-smoking room or those who are allergic to your smoke.

Victimhood? Your original reply casted YOU as the victim. The entire tone was as follows:

"Poor me, a misunderstood victim of horrible PC think! People that don't like my smoke and who complain about it are big meanies!" Pure hogwash of an argument.

It is about common decency, which you demonstrated you lack, not PC think.

And I don't act the victim. I already mentioned that I retaliate.

Blow smoke in my face and I won't run to the government. I will get even.

Ruin my hotel stay and I will demand a refund or a new room from the hotel (and they will respond as the chain in question here did - kicking you rude people out!).

I've hocked lugies on the back of rude smokers who blow smoke in my face and refused to move their filthy habit away from me when I asked them to.

I give people every opportunity to act the decent human being. If they refuse and act like you, I respond in kind.


128 posted on 07/19/2006 8:05:05 AM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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