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Academics KO Grammar Again
Accuracy in Academia ^ | July 18, 2006 | Malcolm A. Kline

Posted on 07/18/2006 2:05:15 PM PDT by JSedreporter

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1 posted on 07/18/2006 2:05:17 PM PDT by JSedreporter
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To: JSedreporter

Me fail English? That's unpossible.


2 posted on 07/18/2006 2:07:25 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: JSedreporter
“grammar is dead”

Has anyone told grampa?

3 posted on 07/18/2006 2:08:19 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: JSedreporter
I wonder why they bothered writing all this up in standard English when, if they're right, they could simply have written:

kid knot need learn rite wright

Oh, wait. Maybe writing it that way would insure no one would take it seriously.

4 posted on 07/18/2006 2:12:58 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: JSedreporter

Eschew the hegemony!!!


5 posted on 07/18/2006 2:13:11 PM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: JSedreporter
‘Writers need an image in their minds of conventional grammar, spelling, and punctuation.’

They have an image.


It's a feeble image.

6 posted on 07/18/2006 2:16:34 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: JSedreporter

Interestingly, the languages with the most elaborate grammar are spoken by the most primitive peoples. It is the most archaic forms of the Indo-European languages, such as Sanskrit and Lithuanian, that preserve the original 8 cases.

As time goes by, countries and empires form, technology advances, and everything gets simplied.


7 posted on 07/18/2006 2:21:13 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Puppage

Itnertsyli, ti si nto raeyll ncessyra ot vene slpel crrocelty, hte gtsi fo hte msseage wlli gte thourgh.


8 posted on 07/18/2006 2:21:31 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: JSedreporter

Grammar is so, like, uncool. What's so important about being understood? When we each have our own value system, and each value system is as valid as any other, what do I care what you think (or write)? And if you don't understand what I write, what difference does it make?

Ignorance is bliss. Don't worry, be happy.


9 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:45 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: non-anonymous

God Bless You!


10 posted on 07/18/2006 2:28:42 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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Vogon poetry just got better.


11 posted on 07/18/2006 2:30:12 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: JSedreporter
Crawford wants to take the $16,351 in taxpayer dollars that are squandered each year in the name of educating each of his kids, and use the money for a private school.”

Most voucher systems would give the parent half of the amount the state dedicates to each student. The other half would still go to the public school.

It still seems like a pretty good deal. We'd be paying the public school $8000 a year to "not" teach our kids, instead of the current $16,000 we pay them to "not" teach them. It would be something like a protection racket, paying them in effect to leave us alone and stay out of the way.

At $8000 it would be well worth it. Instead of paying them to fail, we pay them to go away.

12 posted on 07/18/2006 2:33:15 PM PDT by marron
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So...all those early years where the kids get to see hundreds of examples of error intermingled with the correct leads them to have difficulty intuitively seeing the correct? Who'd have thought?


13 posted on 07/18/2006 2:36:26 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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If I understand this correctly, they want to de-emphasize correct usage so the creativity of the writer is not shackled. That makes perfect sense. That's why in the past, when a lot of people who became writers studied not only English grammar but sometimes the classical languages as well, people were stuck with having to read DeFoe, Stevenson, Swift, Dickens, Emerson, Twain, Hawthorne, Steinbeck, Hemingway, Frost, etc., while our own time, free from such contraints, is thick with literary giants.


14 posted on 07/18/2006 2:41:24 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: JSedreporter

I'll check this out when I get back from the baffroom.


15 posted on 07/18/2006 2:43:10 PM PDT by 1L
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To: JSedreporter
Grammar ain't dead, they're jest a-spittin' up a little blood is all.

If one cannot write, it is a fair assumption that one has not read. If one has not read, it is a fair assumption that one cannot think.

16 posted on 07/18/2006 2:44:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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I have to tell you, I find it almost ironic that here we have an article decrying how easy teachers have been on students, not correcting their spelling, word usage mistakes for YEARS in order that they don't hurt feelings, damage self-esteem and all that. Yet let me attempt to correct another poster's misspells, pronoun error, not a probable typo but actual and in fact grammatical error on one of these internet forums and I am labeled pedantic, *grammar-cop*, or some other derrogative name. All because I wish to note the difference between imply and infer, affect and effect, inform others that using *second of all* after *first of all* is ungrammatical ... don't get me started on *irregardless* ....

Academics aren't the only ones who've KO'd grammar, I'm sorry to say. :(


17 posted on 07/18/2006 2:46:18 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: JSedreporter
I yust to bee able to spell gramer once. But I fergot weather its gramer or gramar to bee kurect.


18 posted on 07/18/2006 2:47:34 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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So why is it again they KO'ed Kelsey Grammar? Was it over a past Frasier episode?


19 posted on 07/18/2006 2:48:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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Amazing that actually writing is more effective at making better writers than having them correct 20 sentences in a workbook. I never would have thought that. /sarcasm


20 posted on 07/18/2006 2:51:50 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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