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The Jeffersonian (Meet George Allen)
The American Spectator ^ | July 18, 2006 | David Holman

Posted on 07/18/2006 1:26:54 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189; Conservativegreatgrandma; Gelato; Taxman; CounterCounterCulture; Broadside; Waywardson; ...
Allen's record may disappoint those looking for a more conservative successor to President Bush. As a Senate candidate, he supported an increase in the federal minimum wage. TAS's Washington Prowler also reported at the time that Allen did not impress a Club for Growth meeting looking for a "Reaganesque economic speech." One member said, "Allen was terrible. He was running away from every conservative issue you could think of."

1) When did Senator Allen change his views and drop his support for the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban"? Why did he do so?

2) Does he still believe that abortion is a states' rights issue, and not one of the fundamental God-given, unalienable right to life?

3) Does he still think that abortion is a "quality of life" question? Does he still believe that human life commences at the commencement of brainwaves?

4)Does George Allen still believe that abortion is okay for "fetal abnormality"?

5) Does the Senator still believe in a "virtual" fence on our southern border?

6) Does he regret supporting some of the more egregious liberal spending bills that have been signed by this President?

I have more questions, but this is a good start.

101 posted on 07/19/2006 2:03:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Corin Stormhands
I have no worries about him winning over the midwest.

I don't think he'll manage that.

Voters often look for a different type of person to fill the White House than the man who served immediately prior. They turned to John F. Kennedy after Dwight Eisenhower. They opted for Bill Clinton after George H.W. Bush. They opted for George W. Bush after Clinton.

If Republican voters decide that eight years of George W. Bush is enough, they may well look for a different kind of person to carry their party’s banner in 2008. And that’s why Allen is no longer the man to beat for the GOP presidential nomination. Source

I don't know if this is true of Republicans, but it describes the swing voters pretty well, and I doubt the GOP would want to lose them.

A lot of what people found appealing about Bush in 2000 has lost its attraction for crucial voting blocs.

Voters will probably be looking for another sort of candidate in 2008, so coming across like George Bush won't be an asset for George Allen.

2008 won't be a good year for a Republican who wants to come across as "Old South" either.

102 posted on 07/19/2006 2:09:54 PM PDT by x
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To: RWR8189

>>>If not an atheist, Jefferson was certainly a deist -- believing foremost in man's unbridled capability to perfect the world through reason.<<<

This is a lie. Jefferson was not a deist. He was a Christian who believed in future rewards and punishments.


103 posted on 07/19/2006 2:11:36 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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>>>He distrusted any government involvement in matters of morals or faith. Thus it comes as little surprise that the "wall of separation between Church & State" comes not from the Constitution, but from Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists.<<<

This is deceitful. The meaning of Jefferson's statement to the Danbury Baptists had no correlation whatsoever with the modern-day interpretation of "separation of church and state", which is a bastardization of the 1st Amendment.


104 posted on 07/19/2006 2:13:30 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin; onyx

Tell us Evelyn, who signs your checks to trash George Allen?


105 posted on 07/19/2006 7:32:17 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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I don't think he'll manage that.

I'm confident you'll be proven wrong. Talk to me after he takes care of this year's Senate race.

106 posted on 07/19/2006 7:35:49 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

No one.

They're simple, legitimate, questions.

Can't you answer them?


107 posted on 07/19/2006 7:48:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

They've been answered. Dozens of times.

Can't you understand them?


108 posted on 07/19/2006 7:49:57 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Who's "Evelyn"?

Who's signing your checks to promote him?


109 posted on 07/19/2006 7:50:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Would you prefer "Evie?"


110 posted on 07/19/2006 7:52:56 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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They've been answered. Dozens of times. Can't you understand them?

No they haven't. If they had, I'd quit asking them.

You seem to be GA's biggest fan on FR.

Why can't you give simple answers to such simple questions?

111 posted on 07/19/2006 7:53:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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You seem to be GA's biggest fan on FR.

Thank you for the compliment.

The questions HAVE been answered and you know it. You just don't like or can't understand the answers.

If I thought anyone around here put any value in your opinion, I'd be concerned.

As it is, you're just useful for the entertainment value.

112 posted on 07/19/2006 7:55:32 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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Would you prefer "Evie?"

Not really.

I'd prefer honest answers to my simple questions.

Here's another one:

If the Senator is now so hot for border security, why does he have the top open borders lobbyist in America, Ed Gillespie, running his PAC?

113 posted on 07/19/2006 7:58:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Earlier this week you told me you thought Allen was a "shoo-in" for the nomination. If you really believe that, it certainly seems like you're doing your darnedest to derail the GOP candiate to pave the way for Hillary.

Good night EV. I hope you find a candidate you can support.


114 posted on 07/19/2006 8:04:09 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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The questions HAVE been answered and you know it. You just don't like or can't understand the answers.

I sure don't like the evasions you've given that you try and pass off as answers. But I do understand you quite well.

So, I'll keep asking them until you give satisfactory answers.

They're really not that complicated. You should be able to handle them easily.

What was the Senator's rationale when he was a supporter of the "Assault Weapons Ban"? What explanation did he give for abandoning that position?

115 posted on 07/19/2006 8:07:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

What confounds me (and others, I'd wager) is that seemingly intelligent people, having succeeded politically with a conservative record, "go wobbly" and move to the left.

Gotta be something in the water?


116 posted on 07/19/2006 8:11:10 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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Earlier this week you told me you thought Allen was a "shoo-in" for the nomination.

He is...in a field that is as weak as Giuliani, McCain, Romney, et al.

But there will be a conservative yet.

Go ahead and run away without addressing the questions asked.

That speaks louder than words.

117 posted on 07/19/2006 8:13:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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118 posted on 07/19/2006 8:15:52 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Taxman

My friend, George Allen has been faking it all along.

He managed to fool some very smart people for a very long time.

That time is no more.

But let me tell you: powerful folks in the party are lining up to support him.

If they succeed because conservatives didn't field the real deal, look forward to at least one term of BushLite.

If he can win the general, which I seriously doubt.


119 posted on 07/19/2006 8:16:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Corin Stormhands

Juvenile.

Thanks for showing us your true face.


120 posted on 07/19/2006 8:17:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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