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U.S. Rescue Bogs Down in Lebanon
LATimes ^ | July 18, 2006 | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 07/18/2006 12:46:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2

BEIRUT — Thousands of Americans whose vacations and business trips to Lebanon have degenerated with sickening speed into stints in a battle zone remained stranded here under Israeli bombardment Monday, their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.

Waiting around Beirut with bags packed and fingers crossed, U.S. citizens derided the embassy for busy phone lines, a lack of information and gnawing uncertainty over when and whether they will get out. Hundreds were expected to be shipped to Cyprus today, but how long the full evacuation will take remains uncertain.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israeliwar; 6thwardvisitors; bogdown; expats; imfnwo; lebanonevacuation; prayers4rebelyell2; quagmire; quagmiretemplate; rebelyell2; rescue; shepsmith; statedeptadvisory; usembassy; wgaf; whinegrouses; womenchildren1st
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To: RandallFlagg
I was directing the "IT"S BUSH'S FAUGHT" to you but the poor guy over there belly aching about his situation. As far as ship defenses in a harbor against silk worms I stand behind my statement. too little time to react and the radar would not see it in the building clutter. Now sending in LCAC's to guard the cruise ship sounds like a much safer bet. They would be much harder for a silkworm to hit.
461 posted on 07/18/2006 7:37:42 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: rebel_yell2

Hi rebel_yell2. I just talked with people at the company I told you about and they first told me about the five ships in Beirut harbor, waiting to evac Americans, as in the Fox news item further above.

He said the Lebanese govt is not letting American ships dock. I don't know if that changed while he and I were talking just now, but he seems to think that the evacs on those ships will eventually happen and the port will allow the ships to dock.

The good news is that you are in the very best position you can be in, for someone in Beirut who is American and wants to get out.

He said the hotel will not be a target. As long as you have food, water and power, which the hotel will most likely be able to keep going for quite a long time, you are the least at-risk of any others. Phone and 'Net connections are just gravy.

Suggests you sit tight and will hear from Embassy person with short notice, maybe an hour or less. Be ready to bug out on moment's notice in order to be included. All papers, one bag, less than 30 pounds.

Whatever you do, nothing connected to Syria is a good idea. (However, he was softer about that than anyone else has been. He says to remember the borders are open now for 48 hours. I said "no thanks, we don't want to be hostages" - he said NO ONE has taken any hostages!)

He said food is the bargaining chip and when it really starts running low (not just grocery shelves - when the hotel starts having trouble feeding everyone), evacs will happen with protection.

I think that's everything. He feels like if you are prepared to hang in another 3-4 days, you'll be out of there before that.

Best of luck to you. You can call him, if you can call out to US - and discuss any further possibilities. They are almost as hamstrung as everyone else.


462 posted on 07/18/2006 7:44:40 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: rebel_yell2
Fox reported earlier that Orient Queen (OQ) can handle up to 1,000 people for the short trip from Beirut to Cyprus. (Normal Cruise Capacity is 750) - But you have to consider how long it takes to load people on to the ship. It could be that only one ship will be allowed in to port at a time for safety reasons while the other ships are held back by Israeli patrol boats that are about 2 hours out from the port. So one ship may have sailed and next ship will be in port about 1 hour after the one before it has left. Plus all the ships and ferries are not wanting to be in the hot zone during nightfall.
463 posted on 07/18/2006 7:45:33 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: groovejedi

To reinforce my previous point, here's an article time-stamped from 30 minutes agao....

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's Hizbollah, which claims links to the Lebanese group of the same name, said on Tuesday it stood ready to attack Israeli and U.S. interests worldwide.

"We have 2,000 volunteers who have registered since last year," said Iranian Hizbollah's spokesman Mojtaba Bigdeli, speaking by telephone from the central seminary city of Qom.

"They have been trained and they can become fully armed. We are ready to dispatch them to every corner of the world to jeopardise Israel and America's interests. We are only waiting for the Supreme Leader's green light to take action. If America wants to ignite World War Three ... we welcome it," he said.

Iranian religious organisations have made great public show of recruiting volunteers for "martyrdom-seeking operations" in recent years, usually threatening U.S. interests in case of any attack against the Islamic Republic's nuclear programme.


464 posted on 07/18/2006 7:46:04 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: stlnative

This is an evacuation, not a bon voyage.


465 posted on 07/18/2006 7:51:59 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: rebel_yell2
their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.

Beginning to sound like New Orleans. Are you still marooned in Lebanon? They say many are headed north to Syria.

466 posted on 07/18/2006 7:54:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: stlnative
Plus all the ships and ferries are not wanting to be in the hot zone during nightfall.

Or at any time. No company wants to lose a boat even if they could find a crew to brave the waters.

467 posted on 07/18/2006 7:57:41 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: rebel_yell2
Good morning.
"Scores of people have died in cars trying to get out."

That's the first I've heard about that. Are these Lebanese trying to get to Syria? That would be dangerous, unless you were on one of the buses I've read about that are carrying foreigners to Damascus. I haven't seen that anything bad is happening to them yet, but as you say, you are on the ground there.

Michael Frazier
468 posted on 07/18/2006 7:57:49 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: RightWhale

At some point, I'd probably give up on the red tape and head for Latakia. These ships in port are sitting ducks. I had visions of the Marines rescuing people out in air-effect landing craft, and I'll bet many Americans in Beirut did also.


469 posted on 07/18/2006 7:58:31 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Yeah. Soft targets are very attractive to these lumbagoes. When I was travelling abroad I never even thought of the possibility that the US Gummint would try to get American civilians out of a tense situation unless the civilians could make it to the embassy.


470 posted on 07/18/2006 8:01:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

There must be Israeli secret agents on every street corner in Beirut for the US to have confidence this is safe.


471 posted on 07/18/2006 8:02:39 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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In summation, yet another golden opportunity for the practice of prayer.


472 posted on 07/18/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Well, there might be. They have had thousands of years to preposition personnel in the region.


473 posted on 07/18/2006 8:06:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: rebel_yell2

The French ship left early leaving behind 8 busloads of their people left near the port. In your dreams the French are more successful. They interviewed an American who did make it out on that ship, that was what she said.


474 posted on 07/18/2006 8:07:48 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Echo Talon

Bump to BM


475 posted on 07/18/2006 8:11:42 AM PDT by JustAmy (I wear red every Friday, but I support our Military everyday!!)
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To: All

Woohoo! Per FOX banner - the "IOWA" Jima is on it's way!


(sigh)


476 posted on 07/18/2006 8:12:21 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: tioga

8 busloads were left behind?!


477 posted on 07/18/2006 8:12:21 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: tioga

Wow, the news stories did not list a single American among the nationalities of the people the French ferry took.


478 posted on 07/18/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: mtbopfuyn

Inscrutable code


479 posted on 07/18/2006 8:14:30 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: mtbopfuyn
Don't forget our "C-Stallion Choppers"
480 posted on 07/18/2006 8:17:15 AM PDT by ezsmoke
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