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U.S. Rescue Bogs Down in Lebanon
LATimes ^ | July 18, 2006 | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 07/18/2006 12:46:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2

BEIRUT — Thousands of Americans whose vacations and business trips to Lebanon have degenerated with sickening speed into stints in a battle zone remained stranded here under Israeli bombardment Monday, their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.

Waiting around Beirut with bags packed and fingers crossed, U.S. citizens derided the embassy for busy phone lines, a lack of information and gnawing uncertainty over when and whether they will get out. Hundreds were expected to be shipped to Cyprus today, but how long the full evacuation will take remains uncertain.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
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To: NinoFan

Yes, I see we are assessing similar issues from different perspectives.
Let me add another relevant issue. Israel has already publicly pointed the finger at Tehran as providing advanced arms used in an attack on its people.

In the international arena, that is no small announcement.

As for Syria, Israel has also publicly stated, it foresees no "need" to consider any action directed against Syria at this time. In the international arena, that too is no small announcement.

FWIW


221 posted on 07/18/2006 2:54:25 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq

Sorry, although you seem to recognize the eventual result (Damascus is dust), you don't see the possibility for Syria acting in an unwise manner, primarily because it is Iran that's the big dog.


222 posted on 07/18/2006 2:54:52 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: rebel_yell2

Israel wants Lebanon to stop protecting Hezbollah..I think stranding others was not the aim..Israel has been once again pushed into taking action..I am truly sorry for your being caught in this and pray you get out soon.

I am impatient at times with the blame the US for my predicament cries..I do not want the US to ask Israel to just"take it".


223 posted on 07/18/2006 2:55:29 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: weegie

I am staying in a fully operational hotel with broadband internet access in central Beirut, along with about ten other Westerners awaiting evacuation. Unless the situation here deteriorates to where I feel my personal safety is at risk, I'm staying put. Plus, it is an easy spot from which to evacuate and the one where the State Dept expects to find me.


224 posted on 07/18/2006 2:55:32 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: leadpenny

I appreciate your point on mutual acceptable conduct among nations. But sadly Lebanon can not even protect itself from an entity making war on a neighbor.
It is in fact a hostage to a foreign sponsored army.

That's a sad reality for the people of Lebanon.


225 posted on 07/18/2006 2:56:47 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Jezebelle

I noticed you haven't been here very long. Oh, also that you're really stupid.


226 posted on 07/18/2006 2:58:49 AM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: romanesq

Excellent post.


227 posted on 07/18/2006 2:59:39 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan

I'm not precluding a foolish mistep by Syria at all. I'm just pointing out the current situation and statments that suggest Israel is not looking at Syria right now but is in fact looking to make some use of the fact that Iran has provided advanced missile systems to its foreign based army in south Lebanon.

Where it goes is still an open question. But I think Israel wishes to decouple the threat as much as possible and marshall international recrimination toward Iran for orchestrating, funding and supplying this type of advanced missile technology to attack civilians in Israel.


228 posted on 07/18/2006 3:00:39 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: xzins
Your ignorance is all too apparent in the fact that you don't seem to realize it only became a "war zone" last Wednesday when our allies the Isrealis bombed the Beirut International Airport. Before that, it was one of the best vacation spots in the Middle East. But don't let facts get in the way of your pre-conceived notions about the area. We Americans need to be a lot more knowledgeable about what is going on over here. As we now see, it is all too easy for us to get dragged into a "war zone."

Of course, we could simply prohibit travel to such places, as we do with Cuba.

229 posted on 07/18/2006 3:01:45 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: rebel_yell2

If it gets really hairy there, do not count on the impending help of the State Dept. which is not going to come looking for one or two people at a Western target.

Try to find an alternative means of escape from the obvious terror targets.
Suggest you find an underground railroad via a Christian Church.
Seek them out now for an alternative plan if needed.


230 posted on 07/18/2006 3:04:48 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: rebel_yell2
I think the ship you will board holds over 700 people so they will have to make many trips.Many some of the ships that came into port at Cyprus will come back for the Americans.That would be a be a help.
231 posted on 07/18/2006 3:05:47 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: fatima

If you are speaking of the cruise ship, it can hold 1400 persons for the nearly six hour trip.


232 posted on 07/18/2006 3:08:47 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: fatima

Maybe.


233 posted on 07/18/2006 3:09:08 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: rebel_yell2

I think some of us Americans are perfectly knowledgeable, thank you very much.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been in the area? There have been numerous terrorists attacks against Americans by Hezbollah for years in many cities, including Beirut. (And numerous travel advisories and warnings have been issued, so no one can claim ignorance of that fact.) No, that doesn't make it a war zone in the sense that you are experiencing now, but given the proximity to Israel and Hezbollah's history (as well as the freaking history of just a few years ago), it's not exactly Mayberry either.


234 posted on 07/18/2006 3:09:54 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Conservababe

Really-that's better.I read over 700.That would be 3 trips.


235 posted on 07/18/2006 3:10:40 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: romanesq

Thanks for your post. I guess my only point is that, assuming ry2 is a tourist, if the US had seen this coming, the State Dept. could have restricted all except diplomatic travel to Lebanon. Since that hadn't been done (also assuming), we have an implied responsibility to our citizens.


236 posted on 07/18/2006 3:11:43 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Beckwith
I wasn't calling the EMBASSY in Lebanon, I was calling the STATE DEPT. in WASHINGTON!!!

Obviously, the Lebanese embassy is swamped and is a victim of the Lebanese telephone system.

But I find it inexcusable that the State Department was unprepared for the call volume an incident like this would generate.

It did not help having the MSM publicize the number to 300 MILLION Americans.

I can't imagine why anyone going to that part of the world doesn't make prior arrangements for an extraction?

LOL!!! What qualifies as "that part of the world?" As for making arrangement for an extraction, exactly what would someone as wise as you have done? The U.S. Embassy couldn't get its own staff out until yesterday.

Please enlighten me, O Great Wise One of International Travel!

< chants follow . . .>

237 posted on 07/18/2006 3:11:50 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: fatima

Cristian Amanpour, now on CNN, looks like a man. I forget, who did she marry?


238 posted on 07/18/2006 3:12:11 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: rebel_yell2

rebel, I realize you are in a bad situation there and I'm praying for your safety. I have questions that I hope to ask you after you are safe and out of the war zone. I don't want to appear to be kicking you when you are down and I realize you just don't need any more crap right now.


239 posted on 07/18/2006 3:12:45 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Conservababe

I forget.I can't put her on.I didn't have my coffee yet:)


240 posted on 07/18/2006 3:14:11 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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