Posted on 07/17/2006 10:36:46 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Like you, I spent the past week viewing the events in the Middle East with growing concern. In the 13 weeks that I have been bringing you my thoughts in Winning the Future, I have shared with you directly many challenges facing us. But no challenge confronting America is greater than the one I am writing about today. And no challenge requires us to be more candid and more direct about what victory will require.
As I talked about yesterday on NBC's "Meet the Press," I am now firmly convinced that the world confronts a situation that is frighteningly similar to a Third World War, one every bit as serious and dangerous as the two great conflicts of the 20th Century.
The recent attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel -- with the active political, financial and military support of Iran and Syria -- are just the latest acts in this war. It is a war that pits civilization and the rule of law against the dictatorships of Iran and Syria and the terrorist groups of Hezbollah and Hamas that they support. It is also a war that pits civilized nations against Islamic terrorist groups around the world, including, most significantly (but not exclusively), the al Qaeda network.
In the United States, we refer to this struggle as the "Global War on Terror". Yet, I believe this label fails to capture the nature and scale of the threat faced by civilization.
The nature of the threat -- with Iran at the epicenter -- is at its core ideological. The threat to the United States is an ideological wing of Islam that is irreconcilable to modern civilization as we know it throughout most of the world.
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Just giving you a little perspective from the OPFOR's POV.
We may have the best military in history, but without the will to properly use it, that makes us look a lot weaker to any potential enemies.
Including the goat buggering Islamics.
Nukes is the difference. Nice rant through.
Ping!
Judgemental folks need to take their own inventory.
I've been married three times; it took a little time for me to become housebroke ~ we just celebrated 43 years of wonderful marriage.
"The threat to the United States is an ideological wing of Islam that is irreconcilable to modern civilization as we know it throughout most of the world."
I.E. Islam PERIOD.
But the differences in tactics shouldn't fool anyone; their goals remain more or less the same as any major worldwide fascist movement throughout history.
"Not by speeches and majority resolutions are the great questions of the day decided .............but by blood and iron." Otto von Bismarck.
The problem no one wants to address is that behind all of this and underpinning both the Western (lack of) will and the so called rogue nations are two immense nation states who have minimal rule of law, do not conform with the Western branch of Judeo Christian philosophy, not only don't follow but utterly despise English Common Law and generally hate the West. They are China and Russia. So long as we lack the will to truly confront them, this crap will continue and may spiral out of control.
It is not foolishness to believe that this "current wave of psychopaths infesting the world" are capable of fomenting sufficient chaos to instigate conflict between the major powers.
The strategic and economic importance of Iran and Korea should not be underestimated. The West as well as Russia and China know that the delicate geopolitical balance that maintains the peace can be toppled by the Islamofascists. China and Russia are opportunists, biding their time. When the United States is perceived as being too undecisive or too weak to act decisively, they will make their move on the Middle East and Asia. Then we will face armies, navies, and air forces that are capable of disciplined military combat.
This is why the cancer of liberalism is so dangerous. In the midst of mortal danger, liberals blur the lines between truth and falsehood, bind our leaders with legalistic stratagems, and seek to weaken our resolve. This is why these events are transpiring in our day. It is not happenstance. The test that comes to us is whether we have the moral clarity to make right decisions and act with conviction.
I would have been saying, starting in about 1923:
1) 1923: Assassinate Stalin, attack the USSR head on
2) 1931: An immediate and massive war effort to contain Japanese aggression in NE Asia.
3) 1933: Embargo of Germany
4) 1935: Invasion of Italy in response to African aggression
5) 1936: MOU with Franco to render no support to Communist orgs in return for distancing from Hitler
6) 1936: All out war on Germany
There you have it, WW2 all done in 1937.
Malarkey. No single attack can do "incalculable loss of life and damage to property". Cause a lot of damaged nerves,yes, and pretty major economic damage, but the US is simply too big and dispersed to be significantly effected by the type attack you describe.
Cut me a break. A single nuclear attack on a major city can do incalculable damage. A biological attack can kill thousands if not more. The point of the discussion was that IF a terrorist organization or rogue state obtained these kind of weapons, it can be devastating if they use it. I did not say it would mean the end of our country. You are reading more into this than what I wrote.
We can postulate all kinds of devastating scenarios, but I am not going too. If you read the entire thread in which I responded, I was reacting to underestimating the POTENTIAL capability of a terrorist or rogue state if they obtained WMDs.
I agree with you. And that concerns me...
Sorry, but no. A single nuclear attack on a major city would do about the damage that Hurricane Katrina did to New Orleans (not, please note, the TOTAL damage that Katrina did--Katrina affected a far larger area than would a nuke)--though the number of deaths would be significantly higher. And this would also be a "real nuke"---NOT a "dirty bomb"--which would do about as much damage as a chemical attack. And your original post specified "nuclear and chemical"---NOT biological--which is the one category that CAN do a large amount of damage with a small "input".
My background--PhD (Chemistry), minor (Nucelar Science). Current occupation--designing instrumentation to detect biological attacks. So this is an area where I "am" an expert.
The kind of attacks that terrorists can pull off can be best be characterized as "painful" but not "devastating". As with all "terror" attacks, the biggest damage would be psychological.
I want the Islamofascist nutcases terminated just as badly as you do---but please, lets stick to REALISTIC assessments of possibilities.
Newt missed WWIII with deferments. Now he's too old and fat to serve in WWIV.
Impressive background. I had worked in DOD on MAD doctrine back in the 80s so I have a little experience in this area as well. Without getting too deep into a discussion on this, what if a rogue nation or its surrogate gains control of a 20 megaton or greater warhead and managed to detonate via "air-burst" (assuming they have delivery capability) in either NYC (our financial & economic center) or Washington DC (our political & military center)? This is all "What If" that we can both agree we hope will never happen however, too many times throughout history, we ignored what could happen based on what did happen historically at our own risk and peril (I also have a degree in both history & political science). To be honest this discussion has gone further than I intended. I was making a short comment and not intending to type a dissertation on the subject.
You had said "let's stick to realistic assessments". Well, in my view this is a realistic possibility not without venturing as to the probability of it happening. Just because its possible, doesn't mean its probable. There are a host of variables that would have to occur before it became probable, but in order to keep probability down, we must first postulate that it can happen within the realm of possibility before we can prepare to defend and interdict against it. A case in point is why didn't we have some kind of risk assessment and interdiction system in place for what happened on 09/11? Was there any thought pre-9/11 to the possibility of this happening? If there was, what was the probability of it happening? Did this fall within the realm of realistic possibility/probability pre-9/11?
I agree with you wholeheartedly regarding the islamofascists, but unless we start understanding what could happen (possibility), then it is probable that we are going to be unpleasantly surprised. Look at the Left in this country. How soon they forget and how quickly they have their collective head in the sand. We must educate the citizens of our country and of the world about just how dangerous our world is and how much more dangerous it can become.
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The President's absolutely right, BTW. This is a war. It's a world war.
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