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To: RoadTest
Aw, c'mon! Some of GM's cars have been up at number two behind Toyota in the J.D. Power surveys. Catch up with things.

I don't necessarily follow JD Power. Granted, the new crop of GM vehicles are quite a bit better than they have been recently. However, for long-term reliability nothing beats Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. Maybe reliability isn't the number one issue for you. If that's the case, a GM vehicle might be a better choice for you. However, I cannot afford to have even the occassional 2000 dollar car repair bill, not on the money I make.

There are a few American autos I would strongly consider purchasing, however there are only a few. I'd buy a newer Impala or Grand Prix if I had the money, which I don't. Pontiac's 3.8L V6 is a solid engine with good reliability. I know a guy who has a Bonneville with this engine and it gives no problems.

However, I'm in the market for a more sporty vehicle, and one I can afford. GM doesn't make Firebirds or Camaros anymore, and I can't afford a Corvette. Nissan doesn't make a mid-range sports car like GM used to. With Nissan it's either a 4-door Sedan (Altima or Maxima) or a 350Z which I also can't afford. The Mitsubishi Eclipse is without a doubt the most fun car to drive I've ever sat behind, but it's reliability is even worse than GM by a long shot (not surprising; it's a typical Chrysler product. Some Eclipses also have this tendency to throw their timing chains which tends to total the vehicle when it happens). Basically, if I want a sporty, fun to drive car for that I can afford that won't fall apart on me at 90,000 miles my only real option is a Toyota Celica, which isn't made any more.

Now, I guess I'm being selfish but the idea of a new GM sports car that I could afford with a far more reliable Nissan engine in it is a good thought that I'd like to see happen.
26 posted on 07/17/2006 7:39:57 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81

why don't you Google "Pontiac Solstice"


39 posted on 07/17/2006 8:02:49 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: JamesP81

Sounds like you want a Mustang, so why don't you go get one?

The V-6, from what I've heard, is decent, and you can put a v8 in there if you want to spend the extra money. I'm looking at getting one (V8) in the next few years, as I've wanted one for a long time.


59 posted on 07/17/2006 8:58:55 AM PDT by 1L
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To: JamesP81

I just looked at the V-6 numbers: 210 HP (and 240 torque). I don't remember the torque rating, but in the mid-80s through the early '90s, the Mustang V-8 put out only about 225-240 HP, so the current V-6 is competitive in quickness to past V-8s (with much better gas milage). I'm sure the torque numbers are a bit less, though. However, we have about that rating in our Honda Accord and its nothing to sneeze at.


61 posted on 07/17/2006 9:03:16 AM PDT by 1L
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To: JamesP81
Maybe reliability isn't the number one issue for you. If that's the case, a GM vehicle might be a better choice for you. However, I cannot afford to have even the occassional 2000 dollar car repair bill, not on the money I make.

JD Power's dependability study does track reliability (the initial quality one does not). Nissan finishes below average on dependability. Mercury beats Honda and Acura, and is in a virtual tie (1 point back, 195 to 194) with Toyota. Owning both a Ford and a Toyota, I have found that the Ford has been MUCH cheaper and somewhat more reliable. As for the Eclipse which you trash - it is not a Chrysler product. 100% mitsubishi. It had a Chrysler engine in non-tubocharged versions from 95-99. It also ran on a Chrysler platform until 2005. But otherwise it has used Mitsu engines all along...
74 posted on 07/17/2006 12:33:14 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: JamesP81
Maybe reliability isn't the number one issue for you. If that's the case, a GM vehicle might be a better choice for you. However, I cannot afford to have even the occassional 2000 dollar car repair bill, not on the money I make.

JD Power's dependability study does track reliability (the initial quality one does not). Nissan finishes below average on dependability. Mercury beats Honda and Acura, and is in a virtual tie (1 point back, 195 to 194) with Toyota. Owning both a Ford and a Toyota, I have found that the Ford has been MUCH cheaper and somewhat more reliable. As for the Eclipse which you trash - it is not a Chrysler product. 100% mitsubishi. It had a Chrysler engine in non-tubocharged versions from 95-99. It also ran on a Chrysler platform until 2005. But otherwise it has used Mitsu engines all along...
75 posted on 07/17/2006 12:33:14 PM PDT by eraser2005
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