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U.S. lawmen outgunned along Mexican border
WorldNetDaily ^
| July 17, 2006
| Joseph Farah
Posted on 07/17/2006 2:40:21 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: AmericaUnited
The avgerage police officer has a 9mm and the average gangbanger/big drug dealers have mac-10's or other automatic weapons. When I was a LEO, we had mini-14s and 12-gauges as well.
It's pathetic that the criminal element in Mexico can effectively dictate our border policy for us.
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posted on
07/17/2006 10:40:31 AM PDT
by
TChris
(Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
To: Man50D
Call up the militia. Put them on the border. This is TEXAS. Civilians here own more armament than most Nation-States in Europe.
Heck, there are some shooting sports groups here that could probably take over Mexico if they took a mind to and had some legal/financial backing from Washington for ammo...
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posted on
07/17/2006 10:51:17 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
To: Jameison
"What is lacking is the political will in the Bush administration."
I't more than the lack of will, securing the border is completely contrary to his agenda.
The House just opened. The Chaplin just said, in opening prayer,......
"And we comfort the alien in our welcome."
To: af_vet_rr
if we throw up a serious wall, illegals will still make their way in one way alive - through legal chanels or the other dead -as a result of theiir own bad choices..
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posted on
07/17/2006 11:08:23 AM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
To: Man50D
"Yet, not a single shot was returned by the deputies or the Border Patrol officers last Wednesday night because they were out manned and out gunned"
Either they were ordered not to fire or they shame us all.
W
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posted on
07/17/2006 11:16:08 AM PDT
by
WLR
("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
To: Man50D
They're not outgunned, they just don't have the balls to fight back because political correctness has gutted the idea that we have anything worth defending. Read "Unrepentant Sinner" by Charles Askins for an eyeopening look at how the Border Patrol used to operate.
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posted on
07/17/2006 11:17:36 AM PDT
by
jordan8
To: WLR
This can only get worse. Nothing will be done to stem the drug trade , or the flow of illegals.
48
posted on
07/17/2006 11:20:43 AM PDT
by
fantom
To: freekitty
"This makes you wonder why in the world do we bother having a homeland security"
To pacify idiots and double government "workers".
To bleed the public of assets through taxes and regulations and reduce the standard of living to 3rd world statis.
49
posted on
07/17/2006 11:23:18 AM PDT
by
dalereed
To: af_vet_rr
"One of the biggest deterents is to remove the financial/economic incentives. That means removing the ability of illegals to work, which means putting people that hire illegals into jail, and making them and their companies face serious jail time."
You mean like ConAgra, Cargill, Tyson Foods, Pilgrims Pride, those that shut down during the May 1st boycott?
"Texas Governor George W. Bush's largest-single campaign contributer in 1992 was poultry magnate Bo Pilgrim, who served as Bush's finance chairman and stuffed more than $50,000 into Bush's campaign fund."
"Warren Staley, 62, chief executive officer of Cargill Inc., the largest U.S. agricultural company, which owns Excel, the second- largest meatpacker behind Tyson, has raised more than $200,000 for Bush's re-election campaign. That qualifies him as a ``Ranger,'' or one of the president's top fund-raisers.
Tyson Foods donated $101,000 to the Republicans and about $40,00 to the Democrats. Tyson also gave the Bush-Cheney campaign $5,000, the maximum limit under federal law, as did Smithfield Foods' political action committee Hampac. Richard Bond, Tyson's president, contributed $2,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign, the maximum allowed under federal law. "
"Perhaps the reason Tyson Foods openly hires illegal aliens is that it's head honchos are tight with the Clintons and President George W. Bush."
http://www.populist.com/2.96.Chicken.html
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000176&sid=aoL24BJqb9Q0&refer=us_elections
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/14267.html
To: Man50D
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posted on
07/17/2006 11:32:22 AM PDT
by
Dante3
To: meyer
Is it really due to being outgunned, or because the deputies and border patrol agents are complacent - or worse, cowards? I doubt that it is because of any of those reasons. IMO it is the Sheriffs Department lawyers advise due to recent decisions by some nutcase JUDGES ruling in favor of ACLU lawsuits filed on behalf of the criminal illegal alien border violators / invaders against American Citizens defending their property.
An interesting idea I had was to hold the trial on the bank of the Rio Grande. Let's see those commie ALCU jerks stand out there in the open where THEY can get shot at while they do THEIR jobs.
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posted on
07/17/2006 12:42:33 PM PDT
by
TLI
(ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
To: gubamyster
These outrageous events will continue unless our American President finally gets up off his knees to Mexico and the globalists and starts representing American interests.
To: Man50D
This seems to be a common myth. I can't speak for local law enforcement but I know the Border Patrol has a lot of firepower that is available to them. Border Patrol Agents have M-4's and shotguns and in some cases M-14's that are also available. Despite the availability of good weaponry most agents just don't take advantage of it because they are too lazy. Some Sectors may also have restrictive policies on when and where agents can carry rifles. I carry an M_4 w/ACOG and 200 rounds of ammo.
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posted on
07/17/2006 1:21:47 PM PDT
by
Ajnin
(I)
To: Ajnin
I carry an M_4 w/ACOG and 200 rounds of ammo.
The M-4 is great but the ACOG is just plain showing off... :-)
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posted on
07/17/2006 3:21:32 PM PDT
by
TLI
(ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
To: Dead Corpse
This is TEXAS. Civilians here own more armament than most Nation-States in Europe
Heck, there are some shooting sports groups here that could probably take over Mexico if they took a mind to and had some legal/financial backing from Washington for ammo...
Unfortunately the Texan whose opinion counts the most doesn't share that point of view. He was born in my home state of CT and raised in your home state of TX. That maybe one thing we don't want to have in common.
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posted on
07/17/2006 4:23:37 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax You earn it . You keep it!)
To: Man50D
Yeah... damn shame it's in his JOB DESCRIPTION to police the border on top of everything else. You'd think anyone with a lick of sense during a War on Terror where the terror cells themselves are known for sucessfully infiltrating borders, that he'd spend a bit more time securing it and a bit less time sucking up to his pal Vincente.
Dunno... maybe that is expecting too much common sense.
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posted on
07/17/2006 6:59:00 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
To: AmericaUnited
This is no different than same situation in every city/town in the US. The avgerage police officer has a 9mm and the average gangbanger/big drug dealers have mac-10's or other automatic weapons. Strawman argument...
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
No it's not. The point is this is the same situation in any major city in the US. A few criminals will have better firepower. The number of illegals crossing the border to the number of the incidents mentioned above is something like .00000001%. I would rather not be one of Farah's knee-jerking, non-thinking boobs.
To: Man50D
Why aren't we dealing with this the same way Israel is responding to incursions?
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