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Dig mess goes from bad to worse: Commuter nightmare
The Boston Herald ^ | 07/17/2006 | Casey Ross

Posted on 07/17/2006 12:09:58 AM PDT by Panerai

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To: mewzilla

It certainly was "spec'd out the wazoo", but that doesn't mean anything in Crookachusetts. Everyone is dirty here, always have been.


41 posted on 07/17/2006 5:31:16 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
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To: Lady Jag
Where the heck were the Feds, then? 60% of the budget was paid by federal taxpayers. You'd think that would mean some oversight.

Question for Congress: You all are always wanting hearings for every flipping thing. Where are the hearings on THIS?!

42 posted on 07/17/2006 5:35:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Panerai

43 posted on 07/17/2006 5:36:24 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: raybbr; geopyg
then you always rely on the people doing the work.

I live in Boston, and it seems to me that about 5 or 6 years ago (when the Ted Williams tunnel was being built, as a matter of fact), I happened to know or hear of several people who wanted home renovations done, but were having a terrible time finding a contractor to do it -- everyone was tied up in the Big Dig (which probably paid better). It seems at least possible that the Big Dig was hiring a lot of workers and/or small firms that didn't have the background or experience for a massive highway project but hired them anyway because they'd already hired all the workers with the experience.

44 posted on 07/17/2006 5:39:09 AM PDT by maryz
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To: mewzilla
How many times has the cost of this project multiplied?   I lost count. Born & bred Bay Staters stop paying attention after a few decades of the same ol'.

Even if they had hearings, nothing would come out of them except a few sacrifical lambs 'they' wanted to get rid of, anyway.

I'm out of here and heading to town for a personal experience.

Later folks, unless a road falls on me...

45 posted on 07/17/2006 5:40:27 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
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To: Paleo Conservative

Heheh-----nice zinger. Paleos rock.


46 posted on 07/17/2006 5:43:46 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: DustyMoment
WOW, just think what it would be like if they had spent $30 Billion instead of a measly $15 Billion on the Big Dig!!!!

They? A lot of that came through the federal government, so WE paid for much of it.

47 posted on 07/17/2006 5:55:38 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Lady Jag
"Workers" do not make those decisions. Architects, contractors, subcontractors and politicians do.
48 posted on 07/17/2006 5:59:50 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: spokeshave

I dont know but this dig but it sounds like they were cutting corners to me. In CA they know that earthquakes happen. I am not sure the one building this tunnel considered it a problem.


49 posted on 07/17/2006 6:03:12 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: spokeshave

Actually, I think they mentioned that the bolts were not as long or deeply sunk as they were supposed to be.


50 posted on 07/17/2006 6:04:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"I would imagine that if they wee done right, they would hold."

So, what are ya...anti-Uniion?

51 posted on 07/17/2006 6:06:50 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: raybbr

"Interesting that you don't mention the engineering company that came up with the design. Do you think union workers designed the tunnel?"

The State is now doing pull tests on the anchor bolts. I wonder how many pull tests they did when the bolts were installed? Only a person with an agenda would lay all the blame for the BigDig's woes on the unions.


52 posted on 07/17/2006 6:47:04 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley
The State is now doing pull tests on the anchor bolts. I wonder how many pull tests they did when the bolts were installed?

Good point. Also, how many pull tests did the enginering firm do? Didn't they go along as the tunnel was being built and verify their engineering specs?

Only a person with an agenda would lay all the blame for the BigDig's woes on the unions.

There is a lot of that on FR.

53 posted on 07/17/2006 6:56:43 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: spokeshave
....so does this mean that epoxy cemented bolts don't hold.....if so this has serious implications for earthquake CA. ...?

They actually hold very well, if the surrounding concrete is properly made, cured and surface-prepared, if the epoxy itself is properly mixed, applied and cured, and if the application they're used in is a good design. It appears that some or all of these requirements were not met in these tunnels.

Oh, and it also helps if the epoxy is actually used to anchor the bolts. I read that in some bolt locations there was no epoxy found.

54 posted on 07/17/2006 7:02:23 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Panerai

The Big Dig? You mean they're going to disinterr Mary Jo??
Wait til the Swimmer hears about this!


55 posted on 07/17/2006 7:05:00 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller?...Bueller?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...)
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To: maryz
Gee, let me see. Effete, arrogant, elitist, communist NE liberals took 15 Billion out of my back-pocket for some stupid tunnel that no one takes, doesn't work, and isn't safe.

Yeh, that's a good deal! And if you believe the 15 billion figure you'll believe anything. Massachusetts is the king of graft and corruption, bribes, pay-offs and bagmen. Just ask Whitey Bulger or his crooked Boston FBI handlers. Oh yeh, Whitey's on the lam. I forgot.

56 posted on 07/17/2006 7:09:41 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller?...Bueller?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...)
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To: rottndog

That was the whole reason only union labor was allowed on the Big Pig project. They had to make sure the quality stunk!
I want to see big dig contractors and MA politicians frogmarched out of the Federal Courthouse in Boston.


57 posted on 07/17/2006 7:13:34 AM PDT by Holicheese (Stanley Cup's new home IS North Carolina!)
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To: SueRae

That is because Teddy is on Summer Bender...oh I mean summer break.


58 posted on 07/17/2006 7:18:01 AM PDT by Holicheese (Stanley Cup's new home IS North Carolina!)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Believe it or not, in the NCMC (NORAD Cheyenne Mountain Complex), there are numerous places where large cracks in the tunnel walls of the mountain are fillec with expoxy. I was amazed when I was stationed there in 1971 to see a place with such a reputation being held together with epoxy....


59 posted on 07/17/2006 7:18:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Panerai

Who says crime doesn't pay? In Boston and Mass in general it pays very well... what's a negligent homocide here and there, as long as we keep sending drunk Kennedy and traitor Kerry back to the Senate.. all is well with the world.....


60 posted on 07/17/2006 7:22:40 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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