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US 'could be going bankrupt'
U.K. Telegraph ^ | 7-14-06 | Edmund Conway

Posted on 07/15/2006 9:54:37 AM PDT by Babu

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To: patton
Anybody believe that if we doubled taxes today, congress would not spend it, today?

I propose we put such funds in something I like to call a "lock box".

21 posted on 07/15/2006 10:09:30 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Iran IS the great Satan.)
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To: Paperdoll

Add this to the recent admission by Ben Bernanke that the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression, NOT Constitutional tariffs!


22 posted on 07/15/2006 10:09:37 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Philistone
In other words, the US is "selling" at 5 times earnings.

The professor talks about 3 "terrifying" alternatives. The 4th alternative is growth which will lower that P/E. The 5th alternative is a combination of the first 4 which will be difficult, but not terrifying. Also I suspect what we have promised in benefits is a smaller part of our workers' future earnings than many western european countries.

23 posted on 07/15/2006 10:12:06 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Philistone

Also, the U.S. owns a lot of valuable assets, and nobody ever counts them when discussing our total debt.

For example, we could sell off the rights to ANWR for a few billion dollars. I bet we could get billions for some of the so-called "parks" which have no value as parks.


24 posted on 07/15/2006 10:13:26 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: patton
There is no SS trust fund.

At yet people calmer for their own pet project, from "Do Not Call" lists on up. They just want to have the other guys project cut. They are so blinded by their own project, like "Do Not Call" that they will offer rabid insults, thinking any one opposed to it is a telemarketer, rather than admit the government is growing out of control. The scope of the government has to be cut, even popular things like "Do Not Call" lists.

I would rather see the trust fund funded, and if that means having to hang up the phone once in a while, so what?

As long as those who support the "Do Not Call" lists have their way, no other group is going to give up either, and the government is going to print our way into bankruptcy,

25 posted on 07/15/2006 10:13:41 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
LOL. Seriously, How?

A trillion dollars would really inflate the dow - until you took it out, at which time the resulting depression would bankrupt the world.

Same deal for real estate.

Imagine, if you will, Bill Gates sold all his MS stock in one day. The stock would be worthless.

26 posted on 07/15/2006 10:14:19 AM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

"...less bankrupt."

Is that kinda like less pregnant?


27 posted on 07/15/2006 10:15:04 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Murtha is truly an EX-Marine...his motto, "nunquam fidelis")
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To: Mark was here

See #26.


28 posted on 07/15/2006 10:16:35 AM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Also, the U.S. owns a lot of valuable assets

No, we have been selling them off to foreign governments and agents ever since the first President Bush signed the executive order privatizing our infrastructure.
29 posted on 07/15/2006 10:16:55 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I bet we could get billions for some of the so-called "parks" which have no value as parks.

Can't do that. The UN protects our "heritage sites".
30 posted on 07/15/2006 10:18:17 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Babu

No need to worry. Isn't Global Warming going to kill us all first anyway?


31 posted on 07/15/2006 10:19:23 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: Babu
what fiscal adjustments are needed to eliminate this red hole. The answers are terrifying.

The answers are pretty simple and not terrifying.

Raise the retirement age to 67, put a lifetime cap on medicaid and medicare of 300,000 per person, cut elderly benefits by 10%, import lots of H1B workers-take 35% of their income and ship them home after 2-3 years (no retirement benefits to cripple companies like GM and Ford).

32 posted on 07/15/2006 10:20:06 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Babu

Fear not, the UN will bail us out!


33 posted on 07/15/2006 10:21:23 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Babu
The massive spending problem by congress critters is most certainly real, but the article loses a lot of credibility with this statement: "The figure is massive because President George W Bush has made major tax cuts in recent years".

Yeah, I too became suspicious of the writer's motivations immediately upon reading "The figure is massive because..."

34 posted on 07/15/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Babu
The figure is massive because President George W Bush has made major tax cuts in recent years, and because the bill for Medicare, which provides health insurance for the elderly, and Medicaid, which does likewise for the poor, will increase greatly due to demographics.

Professor Laurence Kotlikoff's statement, which may be out of context, is nonsense combined with some sense. All it does is confuse.

The Bush tax cut has enabled a booming economy and resulted in massive tax revenue increases thus lowering the debt even more than expected. So the first part of Professor Laurence Kotlikoff's statement is nonsense. The Laffer Curve is real! The professor either doesn't admit it or get it.

The second part of his statement is accurate but incomplete. It does not go far enough. Medicare and Medicaid are indeed bankrupting the country; as are Social Security, the Department of Education, corporate welfare, subsidies, foreign aid, our continuing massive benefits support to illegal aliens, etc. The professor remains silent on this and thus, hides the true problem. The true problem is; every one of these drains on the national treasure is an unconstitutional activity!

So the good professor has muddied rather than clarified the waters of our economic doom. Sounds like a typical economist.

35 posted on 07/15/2006 10:23:40 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: DakotaGator
The true problem is; every one of these drains on the national treasure is an unconstitutional activity!

Thank you for saying this.
36 posted on 07/15/2006 10:25:00 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: downtownconservative

Exactly!


37 posted on 07/15/2006 10:25:05 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Perdogg
KMart, eat your heart out.


38 posted on 07/15/2006 10:25:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: hedgetrimmer

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39 posted on 07/15/2006 10:27:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Paperdoll

The US will never go bankrupt. The US produces 20-30% more than it consumes if you ignore what is spent on the elderly.

If it comes to bankruptcy of the US and shooting the elderly, we will shoot the elderly.

The other way out is to export the elderly to thailand or the phillipines where we can pay 1/3 the cost and still have them live their lives in a decent manner.


40 posted on 07/15/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by staytrue
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