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Evolution and the Kansas primaries
National Center for Science Education ^ | 14 July 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/14/2006 10:52:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 07/14/2006 10:52:23 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 07/14/2006 10:53:56 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: PatrickHenry

YEC INTREP


3 posted on 07/14/2006 10:55:37 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: PatrickHenry

This, believe it not, is not my top issue, but elections these days are decided by fractions of percentages. It is shameful of so-called conservatives to throw away votes on a lose-lose issue.


4 posted on 07/14/2006 11:01:59 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; xzins; DaveLoneRanger

"It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry about the doings of the Kansas State Board of Education. A faction of far-right conservatives has turned the state board into its own ideological hobbyhorse, drawing widespread condemnation from the academic community, not to mention international ridicule. ... The board's ideological and ill-informed approach to evolution and science standards has been nothing short of a fiasco."

Now there's a fine example of "fair and balanced reportig." Or ... could it be a case of "the pot calling the kettle black?" The reader must decide for himself.

There's a post on another thread that sheds some light on these issues, if anyone wants to go look, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1062357/posts?page=107#107


5 posted on 07/14/2006 11:09:54 AM PDT by betty boop (The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -J.B.S. Haldane)
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To: js1138
This, believe it not, is not my top issue, but elections these days are decided by fractions of percentages. It is shameful of so-called conservatives to throw away votes on a lose-lose issue.

It's relatively unimportant how crazy things get in Kansas. The importance of this issue is what it does to the national image of conservatism. The more these people lose, as they did in Dover -- Dover boots board -- the more the rest of the Republican party will learn to get these people under control. We want their votes, but not their lunatic leadership.

6 posted on 07/14/2006 11:11:28 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: js1138

For me, in a school board election, they'd have to search rather a bit to find a more significant issue.


7 posted on 07/14/2006 11:11:45 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

OK, it would be a top issue in a school board election if anyone in my neighborhood was suicidal enough to propose teaching ID.

Our school system simply allows kids to opt out of any controversial subjects. The rest of the kids do not get dumbed down classes. The short bus kids are on their own on standardized tests.


8 posted on 07/14/2006 11:16:34 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: From many - one.

"For me, in a school board election, they'd have to search rather a bit to find a more significant issue."

Really? For me, a more significant issue would be how they planned to actually teach kids to read, write, and do basic math. That seems to be the big problem these days.


9 posted on 07/14/2006 11:17:15 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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If someone were to make that an issue I'd sort of wonder which approach they hadnd why it was better than the current one.

I could see in some low performing districts it might be a major issue, granted.


10 posted on 07/14/2006 11:29:17 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: PatrickHenry
Sounds like the elections might determine whether or not Kansas will be getting new investment dollars from businesses highly dependent on science. And whether some that are already investing in the state will continue to do so.
11 posted on 07/14/2006 11:43:51 AM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the BANNED disruptive troll who was seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: PatrickHenry

It's the whole party's fault that we turned control over to the Taliban-wing of the GOP. Let's get it right, folks. We do NOT want a theocracy in this country, and if you continue to impose your religious values in politics and education you're going to find yourselves on the outside looking in.


12 posted on 07/14/2006 11:57:18 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: betty boop
Now there's a fine example of "fair and balanced reportig."

Your selected quote was from an editorial.

13 posted on 07/14/2006 12:02:27 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: betty boop

Follow the money!!! Some people will not share the government take.... the Supreme Court said they did not have to.

All belongs to the Heavenly Father and He will use and choose whomever He so chooses, even nobodies in the world of science.


14 posted on 07/14/2006 12:08:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: PatrickHenry

The board members should have voted by raising their tails and throwing coconuts at the vote counter.


15 posted on 07/14/2006 12:08:49 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: PatrickHenry
This will just exacerbate the split in the Kansas Republican Party. IMHO we've had enough blood spilt between religious conservatives and main street conservatives.
16 posted on 07/14/2006 12:23:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Evolution is the biggest lie EVER perpetrated upon the human race (from the pit of Hell)! And... the Evolutionists know it... that's why they get SOOO upset when anyone dares question their religion! Without facts you do anger, ask Valarie Plame.


17 posted on 07/14/2006 12:36:19 PM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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Evolution is the biggest lie EVER perpetrated upon the human race (from the pit of Hell)! And... the Evolutionists know it... that's why they get SOOO upset when anyone dares question their religion!

You forgot the /sarcasm tag.

18 posted on 07/14/2006 12:40:43 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: FiddlePig

The war among Republicans is why Johnson County, which voted for Goldwater in 1964, now has a Democrat congressman.


19 posted on 07/14/2006 12:48:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: FiddlePig

"Evolution is the biggest lie EVER perpetrated upon the human race (from the pit of Hell)! And... the Evolutionists know it... that's why they get SOOO upset when anyone dares question their religion!"

An evolution supporter couldn't do a better job or posting a parody of creationism. Thanks for doing our work for us.


20 posted on 07/14/2006 12:55:06 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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