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Iraq war was lost the day it started (GREELEY ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 14, 2006 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 07/14/2006 10:05:15 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: ClearCase_guy
A translation of the last paragraph: Most Americans are not as smart as moi.

Yep, he could have saved a lot of words there.

An alternate way to say it would have been "I read a book by a fellow traveler and found he agreed with me, and is therefore really smart." But that's a lot wordier than yours.

21 posted on 07/14/2006 11:47:12 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof - Lev. XXV, v. X)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

So, you think we've lost Iraq, or shouldn't have gone there?


22 posted on 07/14/2006 11:49:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof - Lev. XXV, v. X)
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To: Jack Ian

He really has that stuff in his novels? I thought the sexy covers were just a marketing ploy.


23 posted on 07/14/2006 11:51:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof - Lev. XXV, v. X)
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To: Falconspeed

Greeleyu has a column in the Scum Times of Chicago. He is a farce and supporter of Gay rights. A joke


24 posted on 07/14/2006 12:37:48 PM PDT by Jack Ian
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To: Chi-townChief
In a bizarre way he is right. The day it started Greeley has his fellow Hate America First Terrorists lovers lost any chance of ever having their side regain a working majority in the US Government.
25 posted on 07/14/2006 12:57:01 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Chi-townChief

I don't disagree some, maybe most of his facts. I do disagree with basically all his conclusions.


26 posted on 07/14/2006 1:05:38 PM PDT by thinkthenpost
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> So, you think we've lost Iraq, or shouldn't have gone there?

1)Well, we can't be evicted, but it does not appear we can set up a stable government, either. The communists used to complain that given its history and culture Russia was about the worst possible place to have attempted Communism, it looks to me that Saddam's Iraq was about the worst place to have attempted democratic nation building in the "Middle East".

2) Given that this was clear to lots of people in advance (or at a minimum, it was clear in advance the Iraq was a potential cauldron of ethnic and religious conflict) it was certainly unwise to make the occupation a demonstration platform for attempting to do Nation Building on the cheap – if we were determined to invade on the basis of national security concerns the Administration should have gone to the voters and congress and demanded backing for a maximum rather than a minimum commitment to security and nation building.

It might not have obtained it, but at least we would not have made the effort while setting ourselves up to fail.
27 posted on 07/14/2006 1:07:43 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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