[robertpaulsen]

"Individuals choose whether or not to be members of the group."

Yes they do. And as an assembled group, they have rights they do not have as individuals. That makes it a collective right.

[tpaine]

paulsen wrote:

"-- as an assembled group, they [people] have rights they do not have as individuals. That makes it a collective right. -"

Yet more proof that paulsen is a democratic collectivist.

Have you no shame robbie? How can you claim to be a conservative?