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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands; OrthodoxPresbyterian; HarleyD; ...
You know, we can (and quite usually do) disagree honestly on questions of how certain aspects of Torah-observance carry over into New Covenant practice--not to mention on questions of eschatology, ecclesiology, predestination vs. freewill, covenental relationships, etc.--but we all agree on the Bible as God's written Word, in which is full expressed God's will, just as Yeshua, the Living Word, is He in whom "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9).

What's truly frightening is how many are either so ignorant or so corrupt and willfully blind that they can't figure out what Yeshua's teachings on homosexuality and abortion are. To wit:

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. --Mat. 5:18
(Well, that pretty much covers whether the commandments on sexual deviancy and sacrificing children to Molech [or Convenience] still stand.)

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. --vv. 27-28
(So is someone going to try to claim that one's not allowed to lust after the opposite sex, but lusting after one's own sex is perfectly okay? "So let homosexuals marry," someone might argue. Ah, but there's a problem with that . . . )

And He answered and said unto them, "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?'" --Mat. 19:4-5
(What, you mean that Yeshua defined marriage to exclude men marrying men or women marrying women? How politically incorrect!)

And on the subject of abortion, one could point out that the Master upheld (and even expanded) the commandment against murder, that He forbade anyone from prohibiting the children from being brought to Him, and pronounced a curse against any who would cause "a little one" to stumble (fall into sin; Mat. 18), let alone scrape them out of the womb like a cancer! One could also point out that He agreed with the presumption of the Sadducees that it was one's moral duty to bring children into the world (Mat. 22:24).

Pardon me, I need to go find a place to scream in incoherant rage for a few minutes.

156 posted on 07/12/2006 2:10:24 PM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman; xzins; P-Marlowe; OrthodoxPresbyterian
The argument that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality or abortion so it must therefore be okay is rooted in at least one logical fallacy and one exegetical one, but they are both interrelated. It is rooted in an argument from silence, which is a fallacy unless it can be demonstrated that the speaker would have to address the issue. In first century Palastine, homosexuality was roundly condemned and abortion was much more a Greek/Roman practice that the Jews already considered barbaric. It is by no means certain that it would have come up.

Secondly, this argument assumes that the Gospels, specifically, were intended to operate as an exhaustive legal code of statutes. They weren't - they were portraits designed to introduce Christ to audiences unfamiliar with him. It is ridiculous to interpret the Gospels like a statute. At best, they are like case-law - precedents with which one's current situation and issue must be compared.

157 posted on 07/12/2006 3:36:09 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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