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Mumbai (Bombay) Terror attack : Enough is enough!
Rediff.com ^ | Saisuresh Sivaswamy | Saisuresh Sivaswamy

Posted on 07/12/2006 8:13:05 AM PDT by An_Indian

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To: Gengis Khan
Let them know we dont want any bloody "peace process" with Pakistan. We dont want any bus or train service with Pakistan. We dont want any opening of border with Pakistan.

More importantly we dont want any "peace" with Pakistan. At this moment it is better to fight a war with them, then to endure this kind of bloodied peace.


That is exactly what the Kashmiri terrorists want as well in order to have control in Pakistan. Since the Indian army is much stronger than the Pakistani army, Islamabad has during the years given support for the terrorists to fight a proxy war with India.

The Pakistani government is at last trying to stop this but it is not easy as Zia and other Pakistani rulers used these terrorists and part of the Pakistani army and lower levels in ISI are still supporting them.

The Saudi financing of the madrassas has to be stopped and Pakistan should reform its educational system and remove deobandis/salafists and take them out of business.
21 posted on 07/12/2006 10:22:36 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

& change the role the Pakistani military plays in the system.Unfortunately,it's role is increasing & these fellows hold Pakistan together in its corrupted avtar.

In other words,the very idea of Pakistan has to be changed.Musharraf & the army won't do that-that will put them out of business.


22 posted on 07/12/2006 10:31:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: AdmSmith

Why don't you provide a bit of proof on what "exactly" the Pakis are trying to stop???

Have they shut down the terrorist training camps(run by the military itself)??Nope.

Have they arrested or detained leaders of these groups??Nope.

Have they stopped the open mobilisation of money & manpower in Pakistani cities for this cause??Nope.


23 posted on 07/12/2006 10:33:59 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: An_Indian

Our prayers are with you.

America turned its cheek before responding. The WTC was bombed once before. Our embassy attacked in Kenya. Our ship attacked in Yemen. Our building attacked in Oklahoma City. Our 747 attacked over New York.

Your country is not alone in confusing the absence of war with the notion of peace. They aren't the same.


24 posted on 07/12/2006 10:38:50 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I agree that most of it is lip service from Islamabad and they really have to deliver. The question is who in Pakistan shall deliver? It must be the army as there are not other contracting party in Pakistan. Big sticks and carrots are at the moment used against Islamabad. However, they have promised a lot the last year and delivered little. This time Pakistan has to make real deliveries.
25 posted on 07/12/2006 10:56:25 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

"The Saudi financing of the madrassas has to be stopped and Pakistan should reform its educational system and remove deobandis/salafists and take them out of business."

Its too late for all that now.

According to Bhagwat Gita, it is far better to fight a bloody war then to settle for an unjust peace. The one who endures injustice faces a far greater hell in this life and thereafter.

"That is exactly what the Kashmiri terrorists want as well in order to have control in Pakistan."

Wrong. That is what WE want now.

"The Pakistani government is at last trying to stop ..."

We have been hearing that nonsense for too long already.


26 posted on 07/12/2006 11:00:10 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: AdmSmith

Pakistan is long past its time to deliver. The question is no longer who in Pakistan will deliver. For us the question now is...."when will our government deliver?"


27 posted on 07/12/2006 11:03:10 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: An_Indian

The article described the American left. They reacted in exactly the same manner. The Democrat pacifists are really cowards who fear harm from strong direct, yes cowboy, action.

John Murtha should be contained by house arrest rather than allow him to flit about the country spreading his antiwr venom.


28 posted on 07/12/2006 11:11:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Gengis Khan

Was it Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Dawood Ibrahim or someone else?


29 posted on 07/12/2006 12:38:18 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Maneesh
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(The U.S. had almost 100,000 KIA in III.)

30 posted on 07/12/2006 12:43:52 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: AdmSmith

Nobody owned up yet. The prime suspect so far according to the law enforcement is LET (because of the use of RDX), but it may well be Al Qaida in association with SIMI.


31 posted on 07/12/2006 12:45:11 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: ARridgerunner

Good to see you too. Been extremely busy but hope to be a little more on FR in a week or two (for a couple of weeks, anyway).

I hope to God that India finds her soul. Soon. Will freepmail you later today.


32 posted on 07/12/2006 12:57:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Gengis Khan

Thanks, here are links for those that are not familiar with the groups:

SIMI the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm


Lashkar-e-Toiba 'Army of the Pure'
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/terrorist_outfits/lashkar_e_toiba.htm


33 posted on 07/12/2006 1:39:44 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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I still find it idiotic to think that people in India & elsewhere assume an "Al-Qaeda link".Heck,in what way is the LET,SIMI & A.Q different???They all believe in establishing a global Slammic Ummah or something like that & will walk through the blood of infidels for that.The routes are the only difference-for some it is India,others Iraq,others Israel.


34 posted on 07/12/2006 1:50:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Gengis Khan

Actually that Paki minister gave quiet a lot away by saying about the need for talks.Who told him so early that these had anything to do with Kashmir or anything remotely connected to it??


35 posted on 07/12/2006 1:53:14 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: An_Indian

"All your nuclear weapons, your missiles, your tanks, come to nought when you don't have the steel in your soul to defend yourself and your subjects -- at any cost."

There really is NO other option.. anything else is your eventual demise. The Rats, such as Murtha 'should' know this, at any rate, we here in America, should never suffer their stupidity and lack of "steel in their souls".

Prayers up to all those who suffered and died in India at the hands of barbaric murders and that they do not continue to suffer by those who are in power to protect them for lack of steel souls.


36 posted on 07/12/2006 1:58:50 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Probably due to the fact that the majority of terrorists active in India have Kashmiri links.


37 posted on 07/12/2006 2:04:52 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Gengis Khan

eventhough i hate pakis...i think indians need to sort out the problems with pakisthan if they ever wanna compete with china.because it is in chinese intrest that indians and pakis fight each other for ever. so that chinese dont have to worry abt india. At the same time the whole civilised world have to get together and eradicate this evil islam from this globe. this is not just india's problem.....the whole world have to stay behind india...if indians gonna confront pakisthan(plus china)


38 posted on 07/12/2006 2:30:30 PM PDT by jome
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mother mary!!...i seee wars comin up...whos gonna survive?????????..islamo nazis or rest of the world...only time would tell us...


39 posted on 07/12/2006 2:33:16 PM PDT by jome
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To: Gengis Khan

Its not just a question of fighting pakistan. There are organizations like SIMI and other gangs in India who are antinational. We cannot keep blaming only Pak when our own citizens are traitors. Thats not to say war with Pak wouldnt help but thats not the only solution.
The article wrongly credits the US "majesty" for being safe. The fact is US doesnt have the hardline muslim organizations and traitors like India has.


40 posted on 07/12/2006 3:51:24 PM PDT by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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