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To: MineralMan
But I am not talking about "all athiests". Whic is why I prefaced my comment by saying the "Michael Newdow" types. I don't generalize I am very specific when I say things. The militant athiests who are trying to make and change policies would say to your face that you are milk toast and need to start fighting for your beliefs. I've heard militant athiests like Newdow say that very thing in reference to athiests who are not offended by Christians speaking in public or in government office or at graduations or ball games, etc.

The active athiest movement when it comes to politcs has the well known goal of removing God from ALL parts of schools, government, the workplace, and any public arena. And THAT is a violation of the 1st Amendment which protect freedom of expression of religion. The founders and the first Presidents, members of Congress, and Supreme Court Justices used the U.S. Capital Building as a church and had multiple Christian church services a week in it in different parts of the building (Statuary Hall and the Treasury Department), so really, how much did the founders believe in seperating Christinity from Government? Not so much when you look at historical fact and documentation of their writings and beliefs.

Like that girl that was silenced while giving her commencement address as Valedictorian, written on her own, and wanting to mention how her relationship with God and Christ as her Savior helped keep her on track and graduate first in her class. The large numbers of boos protesting her being silenced says it all. If she was going to praise allah and mohammed, she'd of been allows to talk all day long, the ACLU would have likely turned the speakers up. This is the ridiculously hypicritical stance of the athiestic movement which tries so hard to remove any trace of Christian presence in the form of symbols and phrases and all other forms from government and school and social arenas. And I have heard more than a few athiests who think it is ONLY acceptable for Christians to say what they want in their homes, and in their churches, and even there they oppose signs with religious statements on church property, and people wearing Christian themed clothing? So if most athiests are like you, why are the militants running the show in the athiest movement?

"Who's more irrational? The guy who believes in a God he can't see? Or the guy who is offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" Brad Stine

58 posted on 07/11/2006 10:04:47 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8
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To: TexasPatriot8

"So if most athiests are like you, why are the militants running the show in the athiest movement? "




That's a question you could ask about a lot of people. Gunowners aren't all saying "from my cold dead hands" either. A small group of militants is saying that. Most people who are pro-choice are not out marching in the street, and most gays are not out trying to force marriage on the rest of us. It's always a bunch of militants.

I'm not a member of any group of atheists. Those folks are on their own, and do not represent me.

As for my beliefs, I don't have any religious ones at all. I simply disbelieve in all deities and other supernatural entities. Others do believe, and that's just fine. I don't.

And it is "atheists," not "athiests." I know that's nitpicking, but you might want to take some time to spell the word correctly. I promise not to spell "Christian" as "Christain."


59 posted on 07/11/2006 10:18:29 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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