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To: misterrob
I'm not arguing against taking consequences. I'm arguing against conditioning someone to get used to a constant level of surveillence. I think that produces a nation of sheep-like adults who will let the government grow to any level.

Parents have been strict, traditionally. But they didn't put some GPS system on their kids. Their kids had to learn responsibility. Now we tag the kids like sheep. And that's what they grow up to become.
125 posted on 07/10/2006 5:01:43 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Is calling the house where the kid is supposed to be to check on them not surveillance? Or asking the parent at that house to call you when the kid gets there or leaves not surveillance?

Is taking a drive by the house where your kid is supposed to be not surveillance?

Is looking at the cell phone bill when it comes in not surveillance?

These are all things that parents do as they should so that underage kids know that they are not free to do as they please. Knowing that Mom and Dad are watching can keep a kid from making bad choices.

When they are on their own and paying their own way they can do as they please.
155 posted on 07/10/2006 7:08:34 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: mysterio

This is just bullplop. Tagging the kid did nothing. The kid did what she wanted to do and continued lying about it. tracking her didn't stop the behavior, nor would it have, because she didn't know she was tagged. Therefore she wasn't being conditioned because she didn't know she was being tracked.

Please put up a better argument, this is very lame.


170 posted on 07/10/2006 8:06:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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