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CAUGHT ON TAPE: A near disaster at MSP
KSTP 5 Minneapolis/St. Paul ^
| 07/10/2006
| By Bob McKay
Posted on 07/10/2006 11:53:58 AM PDT by oxcart
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Amazing video...and some very lucky people.
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posted on
07/10/2006 11:54:04 AM PDT
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oxcart
To: Aeronaut
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posted on
07/10/2006 11:57:49 AM PDT
by
oxcart
(Journalism [Sic])
To: oxcart
Why was a plane with hydraulic problems not stopped at the end of the runway?
To: BurbankKarl
Good question. It landed safely with hydraulic problems and the back up system was working so they went on to the gate.
Never should of done that.
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:02:48 PM PDT
by
oxcart
(Journalism [Sic])
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To: BurbankKarl
The plane landed safely but lost complete hydraulics en route to the terminals. They are lucky to hit the other plane rather than the immovable building.
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:03:59 PM PDT
by
xusafflyer
(Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
To: BurbankKarl
Why was a plane with hydraulic problems not stopped at the end of the runway?Occam's Razor.
Probably because the problem hadn't manifested itself yet.
Otherwise the plane would have run off the end of the runway.
D'OH!
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:04:21 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: oxcart
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:04:22 PM PDT
by
xjcsa
(Ted Stevens: The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: SycoDon
Can't stand morons that do this.You prefer Realplayer morons?
Actually more people have the MS stuff...
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:05:40 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: oxcart
Good question. It landed safely with hydraulic problems and the back up system was working so they went on to the gate. Never should of done that.
Correct. The fault lies both with the cockpit crew, who should have known better; and the ground controller who would have had to direct the plane to a location filled with other aircraft.
Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:07:59 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: xusafflyer
The story says that the pilot reported hydraulic problems in the air...
I bet the wet weather prevented any ignition...if it were a hot summer day there most likely would have been a different outcome!
To: Publius6961
Probably because the problem hadn't manifested itself yet. Otherwise the plane would have run off the end of the runway. The article says they had known hydraulic problems while still in flight.
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:08:57 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: SycoDon
I have firefox and ie. I had to c&p the url into ie to run the video
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:10:39 PM PDT
by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: oxcart
The collision is violent. The wing of the airbus rips open the cockpit of the smaller plane, jet fuel pours out. Brian LaCroix of Allina Medical is part of a team of Twin Cities emergency personnel who have created a plan to deal with this type of crash. "It had to be horrifying to be in that cockpit," said Brian LaCroix. A single spark could have created a fireball. Umm...jet fuel is not stored in the cockpit. Stupid TV news people...
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:12:29 PM PDT
by
Spiff
("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
To: r9etb
The hydraulic problem could have been anything from a slow flap or landing gear to low pressure. Without looking at the NTSB report, who knows how severe the original problem looked.
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:14:07 PM PDT
by
xusafflyer
(Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
To: Spiff
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:16:29 PM PDT
by
oxcart
(Journalism [Sic])
To: Spiff
Umm...jet fuel is not stored in the cockpit. Stupid TV news people... But it is stored in the wing of the Airbus.....
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:17:21 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Publius6961
From the article:
The DC-9 had reported hydraulic problems in flight,...
The hydraulic problem had already manifested itself during the flight. Once the plane had landed, I'd have expected that the possibility of the problem recurring would have been considered.
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posted on
07/10/2006 12:19:16 PM PDT
by
Bob
To: BurbankKarl
"Why was a plane with hydraulic problems not stopped at the end of the runway?"
If every airplane that had a problem of some sort on take-off or landing were to be stopped at the end the runway, you'd turn every major airport in the world into a used airplane lot.
Most likely there was no indication that the redundant system was going to also fail. There are very few single points of failure on an aircraft, but there are some. If when the pilots landed, the necessary systems were functioning ie brakes and steering, they probably figured they were safe to get to the gate.
It will be interesting to see the report that tells just where the failure was.
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