[Toddsterpatriot]

Tell you what, if you admit there is $3,619,735,358,381.17 in a government lockbox, I'll admit the national debt is $8,416,174,438,670.69.

[american spirit]

I can't do that because I don't think there's anything in any lockbox except some fedgov IOU's which is more debt that'll need repaid down the road.